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We need to change the underlying system. We do not need to do things no one needs. We do not need a million differen webshops, and the next CRUD application.

We need to change the underlying system. We do not need to do things no one needs. We do not need a million differen webshops, and the next CRUD application. We need a system which allows the earth resources being used as efficient and fair as possible. Then we can again start apprechiating real craftmanship but not for critical things and not because we need to feed ourselves but because we want to do it.

fragmede 11mo ago
> We do not need a million differen webshops, and the next CRUD application. The thing about capitalism is that unecessary webshop isn't getting any customers if it's truly unecessary, and will soon be out of business. We can appreciate Ghostty, because why? Because the guy writing it is independently wealthy and can fly jets around for fun, and has deigned to grace us with his coding gifts once again? Don't get me wrong, it's a nice piece of software, but I don't know that system's any better.
- Glemkloksdjf 11mo ago
  Capitalism looks like it does because humans don't have perfect knowledge (we don't know the best shop). Also competition is a core driver for cost reduction and progress in capitalism. And on a big picture pov: There is only one Amazon, Alibaba etc.
vladms 11mo ago
Each time someone says "we" without asking me I find it at least insulting. With this mindset the next step might be to tell me what I need, without considering my opinion. Yes, the current system seems flawed, but is the best we came up with and is not fixed either, it is slowly evolving. Yes, some resources are finite (energy from the sun seems quite plenty though), but don't think we will be ever able to define "fair". I would be glad with "do not destroy something completely and irremediably".
- Glemkloksdjf 11mo ago
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jpadkins 11mo ago
> We need a system which allows the earth resources being used as efficient and fair as possible. To what goals? Who gets to decide what is fair?
- ctoth 11mo ago
  The number of not-so-secretly centralized-economy types on HN has actively surprised me whenever I see this. Who is we? and how do we decide?

fragmede 11mo ago

> We do not need a million differen webshops, and the next CRUD application. The thing about capitalism is that unecessary webshop isn't getting any customers if it's truly unecessary, and will soon be out of business. We can appreciate Ghostty, because why? Because the guy writing it is independently wealthy and can fly jets around for fun, and has deigned to grace us with his coding gifts once again? Don't get me wrong, it's a nice piece of software, but I don't know that system's any better.

Glemkloksdjf 11mo ago
Capitalism looks like it does because humans don't have perfect knowledge (we don't know the best shop). Also competition is a core driver for cost reduction and progress in capitalism. And on a big picture pov: There is only one Amazon, Alibaba etc.

vladms 11mo ago

Each time someone says "we" without asking me I find it at least insulting. With this mindset the next step might be to tell me what I need, without considering my opinion. Yes, the current system seems flawed, but is the best we came up with and is not fixed either, it is slowly evolving. Yes, some resources are finite (energy from the sun seems quite plenty though), but don't think we will be ever able to define "fair". I would be glad with "do not destroy something completely and irremediably".

Glemkloksdjf 11mo ago
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jpadkins 11mo ago

> We need a system which allows the earth resources being used as efficient and fair as possible. To what goals? Who gets to decide what is fair?

ctoth 11mo ago
The number of not-so-secretly centralized-economy types on HN has actively surprised me whenever I see this. Who is we? and how do we decide?