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My New Year’s Resolution will be to give up complaining about this on hn, but for now: I find ChatGPT’s style and tone condescending and bland to the point of
by twoodfin 11mo ago
My New Year’s Resolution will be to give up complaining about this on hn, but for now:
I find ChatGPT’s style and tone condescending and bland to the point of obfuscating whatever was unique, thoughtful and insightful in the original prompt.
Trying to reverse-engineer the “Not this: That!” phrasing, artificial narrative drama & bizarre use of emphasis to recapture that insight and thought is not something I’m at all enthusiastic to do.
Perhaps a middle ground: HN could support a “prompt” link to the actual creative seed?
- dataflow 11mo agoAre you saying this was generated by ChatGPT? It didn't seem that way to me at all... what gave that away to you?
- arresin 11mo agoAre you being sarcastic? If not it’s obvious once you’ve seen it often enough.
- dataflow 11mo agoNo, I was serious. Perhaps I haven't seen it enough to be able to tell.
- skrebbel 11mo ago> Putting it all together: a mental model that actually works dead giveaway
- dataflow 11mo agoI agree that part sounds very ChatGPT-ish (and I didn't notice it before), but just one line generated by AI doesn't indicate to me the text was mostly generated by AI... does it to you? I could totally see the original text being improved by AI here and there in small pieces.
- kokada 11mo agoThings like "The misconception", "The key truth", "Why ... choose ...", "Putting it all together", "Notice what didn't happen". But not just that but the general wording of this post. From the words of ChatGPT itself: > The post follows a “classic” structure: introduce a common misconception → explain what’s wrong → show concrete examples → give a clear takeaway / conclusion. The paragraphs are well balanced, each chunk delivering a precise logical step. While that’s good for clarity, it also can feel like the “standard template” many AI-based or marketing blog posts tend to follow. Now, if could just be a very well written blog post too. But I feel that AI just naturally converges to the same basic structure, while a human written post generally will miss one or two of those "good practices" for prose that actually ends up making the blog post more interesting (because we don't always need to have all these structures to make something enjoyable to read).
- dataflow 11mo agoInteresting. I'm probably just lacking in experience with this. I see it better now that you mention it, though it's not clear to me how significant of a component AI would've been...
- misiek08 11mo agoI think that completely useless example, wrong assumptions that other languages will give different output for it and only bragging about how Python’s model is great, because it gives you the differentiation you can’t understand. I hope we will get some filtering on HN, so we don’t waste time on such slops
- xjm 11mo agoagreed. tiring. maybe someone will make an "article-to-prompt" sort of reverse ChatGPT? But of course someone already did that, and of course it's inside ChatGPT, what was I thinking? Though if I do try it, the prompt I get is not especially pleasant to read: https://chatgpt.com/share/6926f33c-8f98-8011-984e-54e49fdbb098 https://chatgpt.com/share/6926f33c-8f98-8011-984e-54e49fdbb0...
- DarkNova6 11mo agoIt’s the main reason I prefer Mistral. It has a reasonable and respectful tone. In contrast, ChatGPT repeatedly speaks in an authoritative tone which exceeds its own competence by an order of magnitudes.
- never_inline 11mo agoIt is optimized for marketing speak. It's very appealing to people who 1. don't know this is slop 2. don't read for in-depth knowledge but for entertainment. Similarly coding is optimized for tutorial-sized code - ignoring exceptions, leaving "IN PRODUCTION DO XYZ" comments, etc...
- twoodfin 11mo agoThat’s what I mean by condescending. I don’t need to be sold “one neat trick to show off in code reviews”. I actually wanted to learn something about async Python!