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AWS counts as managed servers with constant security monitoring. That's a huge difference to paying for a dedicated server where you're responsible for the inst

AWS counts as managed servers with constant security monitoring. That's a huge difference to paying for a dedicated server where you're responsible for the installation and maintenance of the operating system and all software, intrusion detection and thread responses, and server monitoring. I am a Hetzner customer for my forthcoming small company in order to keep running costs low, but it's not as if companies using AWS were irrational. You get what you pay for.

whstl 11mo ago
> AWS counts as managed servers with constant security monitoring. That's a huge difference to paying for a dedicated server where you're responsible for the installation and maintenance of the operating system and all software, intrusion detection and thread responses, and server monitoring. This has absolutely nothing to do with "georedundancy" or "physical security" or "electricity".
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- jonathanstrange 11mo ago
  The point is that the comparison is rubbish because Amazon offers way more than Hetzner. If you compare apples with oranges, you get the result that they're different, and that's the gist of the video we're talking about. I'll spare you a car analogy since I'm sure you understand what I'm saying without one. Companies choose Amazon AWS because having peace of mind and contracting out liability is worth the price. It's not complicated and honestly not worth making a video about. That's all I have to say. Have a good day!
  - array_key_first 11mo ago
    Offering way more doesn't mean it's necessarily worth it. If that 'way more' is not so valuable, then it doesn't matter. It's a lot like the old Mac comparisons of days old. Well you see, the 5K iMac is actually a good value, because a 5K monitor costs 1500 dollars! Okay... but a 4k monitor doesn't, and it's almost the same thing. Amazon markets itself as competitive by doing the whole 'you have to compare apples to apples' thing. But do you want the apples? Will you eat them? Any product can make itself seem like a good value when it throws in a bunch of stuff you'll never use. This is one of the most common sales tactics out there. Go to a car dealership, and they'll talk your ear off about the amazing!!1 dealership addons. Whooaaa dude it's such a good value, look you get an oil change coupon and this stripe painted on your door!! Those other dealerships don't give you that, you gotta factor that in man!
  - whstl 11mo ago
    Don't double down and change the tune when you say rubbish. Don't go around saying that you have to worry about "physical security" or "electricity" just because you didn't buy AWS. You definitely don't have to worry when you use Hetzner.

whstl 11mo ago

> AWS counts as managed servers with constant security monitoring. That's a huge difference to paying for a dedicated server where you're responsible for the installation and maintenance of the operating system and all software, intrusion detection and thread responses, and server monitoring. This has absolutely nothing to do with "georedundancy" or "physical security" or "electricity".

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jonathanstrange 11mo ago
The point is that the comparison is rubbish because Amazon offers way more than Hetzner. If you compare apples with oranges, you get the result that they're different, and that's the gist of the video we're talking about. I'll spare you a car analogy since I'm sure you understand what I'm saying without one. Companies choose Amazon AWS because having peace of mind and contracting out liability is worth the price. It's not complicated and honestly not worth making a video about. That's all I have to say. Have a good day!
- array_key_first 11mo ago
  Offering way more doesn't mean it's necessarily worth it. If that 'way more' is not so valuable, then it doesn't matter. It's a lot like the old Mac comparisons of days old. Well you see, the 5K iMac is actually a good value, because a 5K monitor costs 1500 dollars! Okay... but a 4k monitor doesn't, and it's almost the same thing. Amazon markets itself as competitive by doing the whole 'you have to compare apples to apples' thing. But do you want the apples? Will you eat them? Any product can make itself seem like a good value when it throws in a bunch of stuff you'll never use. This is one of the most common sales tactics out there. Go to a car dealership, and they'll talk your ear off about the amazing!!1 dealership addons. Whooaaa dude it's such a good value, look you get an oil change coupon and this stripe painted on your door!! Those other dealerships don't give you that, you gotta factor that in man!
- whstl 11mo ago
  Don't double down and change the tune when you say rubbish. Don't go around saying that you have to worry about "physical security" or "electricity" just because you didn't buy AWS. You definitely don't have to worry when you use Hetzner.