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>Maybe parliamentary democracy has finally proven superior to presidential systems Because the parliamentary democracies like in Europe are doing so much bette

>Maybe parliamentary democracy has finally proven superior to presidential systems Because the parliamentary democracies like in Europe are doing so much better....

twixfel 11mo ago
Well, yes, many of them appear to be. Mostly not as rich as the USA, of course, though, but if wealth was all that mattered then Monaco would be the greatest country on hte planet. And I should remind you also that not all countries in Europe have parliamentary systems anyway. France and Russia don't, for example, and there are also parliamentary democracies outside of Europe, like Canada and Australia.
- lenkite 11mo ago
  Yes, they are doing so well. Merely threatening free software with arrests/seizure for refusing backdoors. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46037573 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46037573 Others are arresting 30-50 people a day for social media posts that that are "offensive". Doing really well indeed.
  - twixfel 11mo ago
    Well my original claim was regarding parliamentary democracy, and France is not a parliamentary democracy, so I shan't go to any great lengths defending them over something I know nothing about. But yes, these countries are not perfect anyway and I did not suggest otherwise. Only that many of them seem to be fundamentally more stable and successful than the USA. And tbh, what other country has done well with a presidential system besides South Korea? Anyway we are witnessing the sudden collapse of the American Empire and it is fascinating and tragic to watch. You guys, you really have fucked it all up! A country not more than 30 years from the absolute peak of its global power, decided to abandon all claims to global power and influence by voting for Trump a second time. Incredible, just, incredible. Americans, everybody!
rsynnott 11mo ago
The only one that seems to have failed in the same way as the US system has failed is Hungary (Turkey had a broadly similar systemic failure, but isn't a parliamentary republic). Now, obviously, a parliamentary democracy isn't a _guarantee_ that you won't fall into autocracy/kleptocracy (notably, the Weimar Republic was one, albeit a poorly designed one), but they do seem more resistant to it than presidential republics, where it seems to almost happen more often than not.

>Maybe parliamentary democracy has finally proven superior to presidential systems Because the parliamentary democracies like in Europe are doing so much better....

twixfel 11mo ago

Well, yes, many of them appear to be. Mostly not as rich as the USA, of course, though, but if wealth was all that mattered then Monaco would be the greatest country on hte planet. And I should remind you also that not all countries in Europe have parliamentary systems anyway. France and Russia don't, for example, and there are also parliamentary democracies outside of Europe, like Canada and Australia.

lenkite 11mo ago
Yes, they are doing so well. Merely threatening free software with arrests/seizure for refusing backdoors. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46037573 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46037573 Others are arresting 30-50 people a day for social media posts that that are "offensive". Doing really well indeed.
- twixfel 11mo ago
  Well my original claim was regarding parliamentary democracy, and France is not a parliamentary democracy, so I shan't go to any great lengths defending them over something I know nothing about. But yes, these countries are not perfect anyway and I did not suggest otherwise. Only that many of them seem to be fundamentally more stable and successful than the USA. And tbh, what other country has done well with a presidential system besides South Korea? Anyway we are witnessing the sudden collapse of the American Empire and it is fascinating and tragic to watch. You guys, you really have fucked it all up! A country not more than 30 years from the absolute peak of its global power, decided to abandon all claims to global power and influence by voting for Trump a second time. Incredible, just, incredible. Americans, everybody!

rsynnott 11mo ago

The only one that seems to have failed in the same way as the US system has failed is Hungary (Turkey had a broadly similar systemic failure, but isn't a parliamentary republic). Now, obviously, a parliamentary democracy isn't a _guarantee_ that you won't fall into autocracy/kleptocracy (notably, the Weimar Republic was one, albeit a poorly designed one), but they do seem more resistant to it than presidential republics, where it seems to almost happen more often than not.