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This is intentional on Google’s part. It’s anticompetitive behavior, to make YouTube service’s app shitty on Google’s competitor’s ecosystem. But no government

This is intentional on Google’s part. It’s anticompetitive behavior, to make YouTube service’s app shitty on Google’s competitor’s ecosystem. But no government seems to care—-and what will you do, stop watching YouTube?

Arainach 11mo ago
This is nonsense. Among other things, the YouTube app on Apple TV is superior to the one on Android TV. No loud startup sound, the back button exits the app rather than popping up a menu asking "if I'm sure" or if I want to go to a screensaver mode - clean straightforward UI.
- gessha 11mo ago
  I guess they just hate their users lmao
  - atty 11mo ago
    Never ascribe to malice what can be sufficiently explained by incompetence. And i think it’s fair to say the best and brightest at Google aren’t turning their attention to YouTube lately. Except maybe to make training datasets for Gemini N+1 :)
    - jacquesm 11mo ago
      In the case of industry giants malice should be assumed.
    - hulitu 11mo ago
      > Never ascribe to malice what can be sufficiently explained by incompetence. We were talking about Google here. (you know, former search engine, don't be evil)
    - immibis 11mo ago
      Can malice be emergent behaviour?
      - a96 11mo ago
        Well, psychopathy is an inherent feature of corporations. I wouldn't be surprised it malice will quickly develop where that appears profitable.
  - hylaride 11mo ago
    Their customers are advertisers, not users. By the looks of things they love them.
- ashdksnndck 11mo ago
  > the back button exits the app rather than popping up a menu asking "if I'm sure” YouTube did push a version of the Apple TV app that tried this, but it would cause the app to crash/black screen, no joke. They reverted it.
hulitu 11mo ago
> This is intentional on Google’s part. It’s anticompetitive behavior, to make YouTube service’s app shitty on Google’s competitor’s ecosystem This would be true if the Android or Android TV would have been better. It is just profit maximization combined with crappy UX/UI. Google wants your personal data and will make UI changes to get it. (double record/send button in messages, UI elements very close to others so that they can be pressed accidentally, although there is plenty of space between other UI elements)

Arainach 11mo ago

This is nonsense. Among other things, the YouTube app on Apple TV is superior to the one on Android TV. No loud startup sound, the back button exits the app rather than popping up a menu asking "if I'm sure" or if I want to go to a screensaver mode - clean straightforward UI.

gessha 11mo ago
I guess they just hate their users lmao
- atty 11mo ago
  Never ascribe to malice what can be sufficiently explained by incompetence. And i think it’s fair to say the best and brightest at Google aren’t turning their attention to YouTube lately. Except maybe to make training datasets for Gemini N+1 :)
  - jacquesm 11mo ago
    In the case of industry giants malice should be assumed.
  - hulitu 11mo ago
    > Never ascribe to malice what can be sufficiently explained by incompetence. We were talking about Google here. (you know, former search engine, don't be evil)
  - immibis 11mo ago
    Can malice be emergent behaviour?
    - a96 11mo ago
      Well, psychopathy is an inherent feature of corporations. I wouldn't be surprised it malice will quickly develop where that appears profitable.
- hylaride 11mo ago
  Their customers are advertisers, not users. By the looks of things they love them.
ashdksnndck 11mo ago
> the back button exits the app rather than popping up a menu asking "if I'm sure” YouTube did push a version of the Apple TV app that tried this, but it would cause the app to crash/black screen, no joke. They reverted it.

hulitu 11mo ago

> This is intentional on Google’s part. It’s anticompetitive behavior, to make YouTube service’s app shitty on Google’s competitor’s ecosystem This would be true if the Android or Android TV would have been better. It is just profit maximization combined with crappy UX/UI. Google wants your personal data and will make UI changes to get it. (double record/send button in messages, UI elements very close to others so that they can be pressed accidentally, although there is plenty of space between other UI elements)