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That was probably a mischaracterization on my part. I wouldn't consider rewriting almost everything useful that's currently in C or C++ to be over the top. Tha

That was probably a mischaracterization on my part. I wouldn't consider rewriting almost everything useful that's currently in C or C++ to be over the top. That would be a net good. Posts that say "I rewrote X in Rust!" shouldn't actually be controversial. Every time you see one, you should think to yourself wow, the software world is moving towards being more stable and reliable, that's great!

uecker 1y ago
But it is nonsense. Every time some rewrote something (in Rust or anything else), I instead worry about what breaks again, what important feature is lost for the next decade, how much working knowledge is lost, what muscle memory is now useless, what documentation is outdated, etc. I also doubt Rust brings as many advantages in terms of stability that people claim. The C code I rely on in my daily work basically never fails (e.g. I can't remember "vim" ever crashing on me in the last 30 years I use it). That this is all rotten code C that needs to be written is just nonsense. IMHO it would far more useful to invest in proper maintenance and incremental improvements.
- antonvs 1y ago
  You want the computing infrastructure to remain essentially as it was in the 1970s. I don't.
  - uecker 1y ago
    Me neither, I just do not want to make steps backwards because people rewriting stuff for stupid reasons. But your argument is just the old "you do not want to adapt" shaming attempt which I think has no intellectual substance anyway.
- antonvs 1y ago
  Regarding VIM - it's not as risky as something that's exposed over a network, but it's had plenty of CVEs, and skimming them shows many if not most are related to memory safety. See: https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-8218/product_id-14270/VIM-VIM.html https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-8218...

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That was probably a mischaracterization on my part. I wouldn't consider rewriting almost everything useful that's currently in C or C++ to be over the top. Tha

by antonvs 1y ago

uecker 1y ago
But it is nonsense. Every time some rewrote something (in Rust or anything else), I instead worry about what breaks again, what important feature is lost for the next decade, how much working knowledge is lost, what muscle memory is now useless, what documentation is outdated, etc. I also doubt Rust brings as many advantages in terms of stability that people claim. The C code I rely on in my daily work basically never fails (e.g. I can't remember "vim" ever crashing on me in the last 30 years I use it). That this is all rotten code C that needs to be written is just nonsense. IMHO it would far more useful to invest in proper maintenance and incremental improvements.
- antonvs 1y ago
  You want the computing infrastructure to remain essentially as it was in the 1970s. I don't.
  - uecker 1y ago
    Me neither, I just do not want to make steps backwards because people rewriting stuff for stupid reasons. But your argument is just the old "you do not want to adapt" shaming attempt which I think has no intellectual substance anyway.
- antonvs 1y ago
  Regarding VIM - it's not as risky as something that's exposed over a network, but it's had plenty of CVEs, and skimming them shows many if not most are related to memory safety. See: https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-8218/product_id-14270/VIM-VIM.html https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-8218...