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2WSSd-JzVM 1y ago
It pisses me off. Does anyone know when exactly Google stopped carrying about cloaking? It is the same with Linkedin, you will get a login screen when following a link from Google results. Which was punishable with penalizing position or even removing of site in "good old times".
- saint_fiasco 1y ago
  How do you know it's not still punished? You didn't find that article through Google. Maybe they are still being punished but linkedin and nyt figure that the punishment is worth it.
  - Retric 1y ago
    Google “OpenAI” then click the “news” tab and it’s currently the top story despite multiple newer articles. So they aren’t meaningfully punishing them.
- jabroni_salad 1y ago
  Who would they lose position to? Free newspapers are either going out of business or becoming automated content farms. They don't have to outrun the bear, they only have to outrun the next slowest publication.
- lelandfe 1y ago
  It’s cloaking when it’s Bad. It’s Good when it’s Google that’s let through the gates: https://developers.google.com/search/docs/essentials/spam-policies https://developers.google.com/search/docs/essentials/spam-po... > If you operate a paywall or a content-gating mechanism, we don't consider this to be cloaking if Google can see the full content of what's behind the paywall just like any person who has access to the gated material
dustypotato 1y ago
bookmarked
js2 1y ago
Gift link: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/23/technology/openai-chatgpt-users-risks.html?unlocked_article_code=1.308.5tFV.nqKEOM5xlvuO&smid=url-share https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/23/technology/openai-chatgpt...
1vuio0pswjnm7 1y ago
"These tags are somewhat benign, allowing websites to serve personalized adverts, or track which sources are having the most success in shepherding users to a website. However, this is inarguably a form of tracking users across the web, something that many people, and Apple itself, aren't keen on." https://www.tomsguide.com/how-to/ios-145-how-to-stop-apps-from-tracking-you https://www.tomsguide.com/how-to/ios-145-how-to-stop-apps-fr... "Firefox recently announced that they are offering users a choice on whether or not to include tracking information from copied URLs, which comes on the on the heels of iOS 17 blocking user tracking via URLs." "If it became more intrusive and they blocked UTM tags, it would take awhile for them all to catch on if you were to circumvent UTM tags by simply tagging things in a series of sub-directories.. ie. site.com/landing/<tag1>/<tag2> etc. Also, most savvy marketers are already integrating future proof workarounds for these exact scenarios. A lot can be done with pixel based integrations rather than cookie based or UTM tracking. When set up properly they can actually provide better and more accurate tracking and attribution. Hence the name of my agency, Pixel Main." https://www.searchenginejournal.com/category/paid-media/pay-per-click/ https://www.searchenginejournal.com/category/paid-media/pay-... Perhaps tags do not necessarily need to begin with "utm". They could begin with any string, e.g., "gift_link", "unlocked_article_code", etc., as long as the tag has a unique component, enabling the website operator and its marketing partners to identify the person (account) who originally shared the URL and to associate all those who click on it with that person (account).

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2WSSd-JzVM 1y ago

It pisses me off. Does anyone know when exactly Google stopped carrying about cloaking? It is the same with Linkedin, you will get a login screen when following a link from Google results. Which was punishable with penalizing position or even removing of site in "good old times".

saint_fiasco 1y ago
How do you know it's not still punished? You didn't find that article through Google. Maybe they are still being punished but linkedin and nyt figure that the punishment is worth it.
- Retric 1y ago
  Google “OpenAI” then click the “news” tab and it’s currently the top story despite multiple newer articles. So they aren’t meaningfully punishing them.
jabroni_salad 1y ago
Who would they lose position to? Free newspapers are either going out of business or becoming automated content farms. They don't have to outrun the bear, they only have to outrun the next slowest publication.
lelandfe 1y ago
It’s cloaking when it’s Bad. It’s Good when it’s Google that’s let through the gates: https://developers.google.com/search/docs/essentials/spam-policies https://developers.google.com/search/docs/essentials/spam-po... > If you operate a paywall or a content-gating mechanism, we don't consider this to be cloaking if Google can see the full content of what's behind the paywall just like any person who has access to the gated material

dustypotato 1y ago

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js2 1y ago

Gift link: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/23/technology/openai-chatgpt-users-risks.html?unlocked_article_code=1.308.5tFV.nqKEOM5xlvuO&smid=url-share https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/23/technology/openai-chatgpt...

1vuio0pswjnm7 1y ago

"These tags are somewhat benign, allowing websites to serve personalized adverts, or track which sources are having the most success in shepherding users to a website. However, this is inarguably a form of tracking users across the web, something that many people, and Apple itself, aren't keen on." https://www.tomsguide.com/how-to/ios-145-how-to-stop-apps-from-tracking-you https://www.tomsguide.com/how-to/ios-145-how-to-stop-apps-fr... "Firefox recently announced that they are offering users a choice on whether or not to include tracking information from copied URLs, which comes on the on the heels of iOS 17 blocking user tracking via URLs." "If it became more intrusive and they blocked UTM tags, it would take awhile for them all to catch on if you were to circumvent UTM tags by simply tagging things in a series of sub-directories.. ie. site.com/landing/<tag1>/<tag2> etc. Also, most savvy marketers are already integrating future proof workarounds for these exact scenarios. A lot can be done with pixel based integrations rather than cookie based or UTM tracking. When set up properly they can actually provide better and more accurate tracking and attribution. Hence the name of my agency, Pixel Main." https://www.searchenginejournal.com/category/paid-media/pay-per-click/ https://www.searchenginejournal.com/category/paid-media/pay-... Perhaps tags do not necessarily need to begin with "utm". They could begin with any string, e.g., "gift_link", "unlocked_article_code", etc., as long as the tag has a unique component, enabling the website operator and its marketing partners to identify the person (account) who originally shared the URL and to associate all those who click on it with that person (account).