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I read about this when I first discovered GrapheneOS, and it looked like it. And it may be partially correct. But on the other hand, I have read a lot of "dram
by palata 1y ago
I read about this when I first discovered GrapheneOS, and it looked like it. And it may be partially correct.
But on the other hand, I have read a lot of "drama" between e.g. /e/OS and GrapheneOS, and more often than not, it looked like GrapheneOS was criticising actual limitations of /e/OS and /e/OS (a mix of the community and official comms) seemed to be the one being unfair.
GrapheneOS generally is pretty direct at saying stuff like "their approach is strictly less secure" or "they are often worse than Stock Android", and I understand that this is not good publicity for Murena. But I am yet to see one of these claims to be wrong: all I can say is that the tone is very direct and could offend the /e/OS people, even if the claims are true.
On the other hand, instead of just acknowledging and trying to explain why /e/OS may be a good choice (e.g. if you happen to own a phone that is not a Pixel and that is well supported by /e/OS), I have seen actually wrong claims from /e/OS against GrapheneOS (sometimes downright technically wrong about security/privacy). And while GrapheneOS is quite exemplary with their support (if your phone is supported, then it's best in class), I have run /e/OS on a couple of phones and I have seen by myself that some of the security updates were 3 years old while the Stock Android was actually up-to-date.
So yeah... I get that it's a sensitive topic, but I feel like there is more a long history of people accusing GrapheneOS of accusing people, and I'm not anymore convinced that this is actually true.
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- iamnothere 1y agoThis is likewise my experience. It’s true that Micay is prickly and unwilling to prioritize social grace over technical accuracy, but that’s kind of what I’d like to see for a project like this.
- Grimblewald 1y agoHonestly, this thread has done more to sell me on graphene than anything else. This makes me think its a fully serious and ridigid in its integrity endevour.
- preisschild 1y agoYeah, I had found the same when I looked into this. It seems that the Murena CEO himself is spreading factually incorrect critique of GrapheneOS
- wkat4242 1y agoMicay was mostly up in arms against CalyxOS not so much /e/. I can't verify that he was right, but most commenters, even former supporters like Louis Rossmann say he wasn't. But it's been very quiet since he stepped down and I have more confidence in grapheneos now.