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TIL! I'll finally give Claude Code a try. I've been using Cursor since it launched and never tried anything else. The terminal UI didn't appeal to me, but knowi

by HugoDias 10mo ago

TIL! I'll finally give Claude Code a try. I've been using Cursor since it launched and never tried anything else. The terminal UI didn't appeal to me, but knowing it has better performance, I'll check it out. Cursor has been a terrible experience lately, regardless of the model. Sometimes for the same task, I need to try with Sonnet 4.5, ChatGPT 5.1 Codex, Gemini Pro 3... and most times, none managed to do the work, and I end up doing it myself. At least I’m coding more again, lol

firloop 10mo ago
You can install the Claude Code VS Code extension in Cursor and you get a similar AI side pane as the main Cursor composer.
- adastra22 10mo ago
  That’s just Claude Code then. Why use cursor?
  - dcre 10mo ago
    People like the tab completion model in Cursor.
    - BoorishBears 10mo ago
      And they killed Supermaven. I've actually been working on porting the tab completion from Cursor to Zed, and eventually IntelliJ, for fun It shows exactly why their tab completion is so much better than everyone else's though: it's practically a state machine that's getting updated with diffs on every change and every file you're working with. (also a bit of a privacy nightmare if you care about that though)
fragmede 10mo ago
it's not about the terminal, but about decoupling yourself from looking at the code. The Claude app lets you interact with a github repo from your phone.
- verdverm 10mo ago
  This is not the way these agents are not up to the task of writing production level code at any meaningful scale looking forward to high paying gigs to go in and clean up after people take them too far and the hype cycle fades --- I recommend the opposite, work on custom agents so you have a better understanding of how these things work and fail. Get deep in the code to understand how context and values flow and get presented within the system.
  - fragmede 10mo ago
    > these agents are not up to the task of writing production level code at any meaningful scale I think the new one is. I could be the fool and be proven wrong though.
    - verdverm 10mo ago
      It's marginally better, no where close to game changing, which I agree will require moving beyond transformers to something we don't know yet
  - alwillis 10mo ago
    > these agents are not up to the task of writing production level code at any meaningful scale This is obviously not true, starting with the AI companies themselves. It's like the old saying "half of all advertising doesn't work; we just don't which half that is." Some organizations are having great results, while some are not. From the multiple dev podcasts I've listened to by AI skeptics have had a lightbulb moment where they get AI is where everything is headed.
    - verdverm 10mo ago
      Not a skeptic, I use AI for coding daily and am working on a custom agent setup because, through my experience for more than a year, they are not up to hard tasks. This is well known I thought, as even the people who build the AIs we use talk about this and acknowledge their limitations.
idonotknowwhy 10mo ago
Glad you mentioned "Cursor has been a terrible experience lately", as I was planning to finally give it a try. I'd heard it has the best auto-complete, which I don't get use VSCode with Claude Code in the terminal.
- alphabettsy 10mo ago
  You should still give it a try. Can’t speak for their experience, but doesn’t ring true for me.
  - baq 10mo ago
    +1, it had a bad period when they were hyperscaling up, but IME they've found their pace (very) recently - I almost ditched cursor in the summer, but am a quite happy user now.
- PrayagS 10mo ago
  I haven’t used Cursor since I use Neovim and it’s hard to move out. The auto-complete suggestions from FIM models (either open source or even something Gemini Flash) punch far above their weight. That combined with CC/Codex has been a good setup for me.
fabbbbb 10mo ago
I get the same impression. Even GPT 5.1 Codex is just sooo slow in Cursor. Claude Code with Sonnet is still the benchmkar. Fast and good.
- Huppie 10mo ago
  I was evaluating codex vs claude code the past month and GPT 5.1 codex being slow is just the default experience I had with it. The answers were mostly on par (though different in style which took some getting used to) but the speed was a big downer for me. I really wanted to give it an honest try but went back to Claude Code within two weeks.

firloop 10mo ago

You can install the Claude Code VS Code extension in Cursor and you get a similar AI side pane as the main Cursor composer.

adastra22 10mo ago
That’s just Claude Code then. Why use cursor?
- dcre 10mo ago
  People like the tab completion model in Cursor.
  - BoorishBears 10mo ago
    And they killed Supermaven. I've actually been working on porting the tab completion from Cursor to Zed, and eventually IntelliJ, for fun It shows exactly why their tab completion is so much better than everyone else's though: it's practically a state machine that's getting updated with diffs on every change and every file you're working with. (also a bit of a privacy nightmare if you care about that though)

fragmede 10mo ago

it's not about the terminal, but about decoupling yourself from looking at the code. The Claude app lets you interact with a github repo from your phone.

verdverm 10mo ago
This is not the way these agents are not up to the task of writing production level code at any meaningful scale looking forward to high paying gigs to go in and clean up after people take them too far and the hype cycle fades --- I recommend the opposite, work on custom agents so you have a better understanding of how these things work and fail. Get deep in the code to understand how context and values flow and get presented within the system.
- fragmede 10mo ago
  > these agents are not up to the task of writing production level code at any meaningful scale I think the new one is. I could be the fool and be proven wrong though.
  - verdverm 10mo ago
    It's marginally better, no where close to game changing, which I agree will require moving beyond transformers to something we don't know yet
- alwillis 10mo ago
  > these agents are not up to the task of writing production level code at any meaningful scale This is obviously not true, starting with the AI companies themselves. It's like the old saying "half of all advertising doesn't work; we just don't which half that is." Some organizations are having great results, while some are not. From the multiple dev podcasts I've listened to by AI skeptics have had a lightbulb moment where they get AI is where everything is headed.
  - verdverm 10mo ago
    Not a skeptic, I use AI for coding daily and am working on a custom agent setup because, through my experience for more than a year, they are not up to hard tasks. This is well known I thought, as even the people who build the AIs we use talk about this and acknowledge their limitations.

idonotknowwhy 10mo ago

Glad you mentioned "Cursor has been a terrible experience lately", as I was planning to finally give it a try. I'd heard it has the best auto-complete, which I don't get use VSCode with Claude Code in the terminal.

alphabettsy 10mo ago
You should still give it a try. Can’t speak for their experience, but doesn’t ring true for me.
- baq 10mo ago
  +1, it had a bad period when they were hyperscaling up, but IME they've found their pace (very) recently - I almost ditched cursor in the summer, but am a quite happy user now.
PrayagS 10mo ago
I haven’t used Cursor since I use Neovim and it’s hard to move out. The auto-complete suggestions from FIM models (either open source or even something Gemini Flash) punch far above their weight. That combined with CC/Codex has been a good setup for me.

fabbbbb 10mo ago

I get the same impression. Even GPT 5.1 Codex is just sooo slow in Cursor. Claude Code with Sonnet is still the benchmkar. Fast and good.

Huppie 10mo ago
I was evaluating codex vs claude code the past month and GPT 5.1 codex being slow is just the default experience I had with it. The answers were mostly on par (though different in style which took some getting used to) but the speed was a big downer for me. I really wanted to give it an honest try but went back to Claude Code within two weeks.