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I'm excited that the back will screw off so we can replace the battery. I'm curious about waterproofing. Will that hold? Will we need to replace a gasket or oth

by apparent 11mo ago

I'm excited that the back will screw off so we can replace the battery. I'm curious about waterproofing. Will that hold? Will we need to replace a gasket or other parts, in addition to the battery?

erohead 11mo ago
In the video, the green thing is the gasket. It should be reusable, but nothing's guaranteed in the world of waterproofing.
- ortusdux 11mo ago
  I really like the look of the Pixel watch 4's approach to this: https://www.ifixit.com/News/113620/the-pixel-watch-4-is-the-most-repairable-smartwatch-on-the-market https://www.ifixit.com/News/113620/the-pixel-watch-4-is-the-...
  - erohead 11mo ago
    That is incredibly fantastic feat of engineering!
    - Fnoord 11mo ago
      Exciting, except it runs Android Wear OS by Google instead of a deGoogled OS, and in the comments it says: "Repairability is admirable but only 3 years of security updates isn't near enough" FTA: "We’re also making sure that our new watches are more repairable than old Pebble watches. The back cover of Pebble Time 2 is screwed in. You can remove the back cover and replace the battery." So the battery of the Pebble Time 2 (the watch I bought to replace my Fossil HR Collider which replaced my orig. Pebble 2) is user serviceable. I had to open my Pebble 2 because my buttons were falling off. I bought a second hand donor (Pebble OC, since I ditched my broken Pebble OC at some point) and unfortunately I failed to succeed the transplantation of the buttons. Which made me very sad. I also very much liked you could turn the radios off on the Pebble 2. The HR was useless though. But if I want a good quality of that, I'd go for Garmin or (if I were in the Apple ecosystem) an Apple Watch.
      - phatskat 11mo ago
        I had a few Pebbles back in the day and I loved them dearly - still have them laying around so the revival should be great if I can resurrect them. After Pebble went kaput, I got an Apple Watch through a work reward thing and honestly it’s been solid. I turned off a lot of notifications and mostly use it for things I really want to know, some light exercise tracking, time and weather.
        Fnoord 11mo ago
        I think Pebble only recently worked again with iOS. I don't use iOS, I use AOSP-based OS. So for me, Apple Watch isn't an option, since it doesn't work well with that. Battery life and being able to replace the battery is also important to me.
daemonologist 11mo ago
Yeah I find the Time 2 design to be kind of fugly, but the screwed assembly is definitely tempting me to pick one up. Very nice feature. (A lot of the original Pebbles were ugly too, but in a way that I personally found more appealingly utilitarian. Or maybe I'm just used to them.)
ndiddy 11mo ago
The watch is only listed as water resistant, not waterproof. I don't know if he's said anything specific about the Time 2, but for the 2 Duo (same target water resistance rating) he's written about the water resistance here: https://ericmigi.com/blog/pebble-2-duo-is-in-mass-production https://ericmigi.com/blog/pebble-2-duo-is-in-mass-production . He says you shouldn't take the watch swimming, shouldn't expose it to hot water like a shower (weakens the glue and eliminates the water resistance), and shouldn't expose it to high pressure water. They seem designed mainly to protect against incidental splashes rather than any serious water exposure.
- apparent 11mo ago
  True but he does say "it is waterproofed" [1] and this is the common way of referring to this level of water resistance (IPX8, 1 meter for 30 mins). I wouldn't take it in a hot shower, but IPX8 should be good for more than being "water resistant" to incidental splashes. 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTlRBI2QCzM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTlRBI2QCzM

I'm excited that the back will screw off so we can replace the battery. I'm curious about waterproofing. Will that hold? Will we need to replace a gasket or other parts, in addition to the battery?

erohead 11mo ago

In the video, the green thing is the gasket. It should be reusable, but nothing's guaranteed in the world of waterproofing.

ortusdux 11mo ago
I really like the look of the Pixel watch 4's approach to this: https://www.ifixit.com/News/113620/the-pixel-watch-4-is-the-most-repairable-smartwatch-on-the-market https://www.ifixit.com/News/113620/the-pixel-watch-4-is-the-...
- erohead 11mo ago
  That is incredibly fantastic feat of engineering!
  - Fnoord 11mo ago
    Exciting, except it runs Android Wear OS by Google instead of a deGoogled OS, and in the comments it says: "Repairability is admirable but only 3 years of security updates isn't near enough" FTA: "We’re also making sure that our new watches are more repairable than old Pebble watches. The back cover of Pebble Time 2 is screwed in. You can remove the back cover and replace the battery." So the battery of the Pebble Time 2 (the watch I bought to replace my Fossil HR Collider which replaced my orig. Pebble 2) is user serviceable. I had to open my Pebble 2 because my buttons were falling off. I bought a second hand donor (Pebble OC, since I ditched my broken Pebble OC at some point) and unfortunately I failed to succeed the transplantation of the buttons. Which made me very sad. I also very much liked you could turn the radios off on the Pebble 2. The HR was useless though. But if I want a good quality of that, I'd go for Garmin or (if I were in the Apple ecosystem) an Apple Watch.
    - phatskat 11mo ago
      I had a few Pebbles back in the day and I loved them dearly - still have them laying around so the revival should be great if I can resurrect them. After Pebble went kaput, I got an Apple Watch through a work reward thing and honestly it’s been solid. I turned off a lot of notifications and mostly use it for things I really want to know, some light exercise tracking, time and weather.
      - Fnoord 11mo ago
        I think Pebble only recently worked again with iOS. I don't use iOS, I use AOSP-based OS. So for me, Apple Watch isn't an option, since it doesn't work well with that. Battery life and being able to replace the battery is also important to me.

daemonologist 11mo ago

Yeah I find the Time 2 design to be kind of fugly, but the screwed assembly is definitely tempting me to pick one up. Very nice feature. (A lot of the original Pebbles were ugly too, but in a way that I personally found more appealingly utilitarian. Or maybe I'm just used to them.)

ndiddy 11mo ago

The watch is only listed as water resistant, not waterproof. I don't know if he's said anything specific about the Time 2, but for the 2 Duo (same target water resistance rating) he's written about the water resistance here: https://ericmigi.com/blog/pebble-2-duo-is-in-mass-production https://ericmigi.com/blog/pebble-2-duo-is-in-mass-production . He says you shouldn't take the watch swimming, shouldn't expose it to hot water like a shower (weakens the glue and eliminates the water resistance), and shouldn't expose it to high pressure water. They seem designed mainly to protect against incidental splashes rather than any serious water exposure.

apparent 11mo ago
True but he does say "it is waterproofed" [1] and this is the common way of referring to this level of water resistance (IPX8, 1 meter for 30 mins). I wouldn't take it in a hot shower, but IPX8 should be good for more than being "water resistant" to incidental splashes. 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTlRBI2QCzM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTlRBI2QCzM