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This is a nice approach. The students who know the material, or even who manually prepare before seeing the prof achieve the objective of learning.
by j45 11mo ago
This is a nice approach. The students who know the material, or even who manually prepare before seeing the prof achieve the objective of learning.
- onion2k 11mo agoIt's not great for the teacher though. They're the ones who will truly suffer from the proliferation of AI - increased complexity of work around spotting cheating 'solved' by a huge increase in time pressure. Faced with that teachers will have three options: accept AI detection as gospel without appeals and be accused of unfairness or being bad at the job by parents, spend time on appeals to the detriment of other duties leading to more accusations of being bad at the job, or leave teaching and get an easier (and probably less stressful and higher paid) job. Given those choices I'd pick the third option.
- mavhc 11mo ago4. Use AI to talk to the student to find out if they understand. Tests were created to save money, more students per teacher, we're just going back to the older, actually useful, method of talking to people to see if they understand what they've been taught. You weren't asked to write an essay because someone wanted to read your essay, only to intuit that you've understood something
- WalterBright 11mo ago> Tests were created to save money I'm skeptical. Tests are a way of standardizing the curriculum and objectively determining if the lessons were learned.
- RealityVoid 11mo agoBoth can be true at the same time. You outlined the objective, the money is an extra constraint (and let's be honest, when isn't money an extra constraint?)
- j45 11mo agoTests are a way of largely seeing if a response to a question was memorized. The lesson of how to swim sometimes only comes in applying the learning.
- WalterBright 11mo ago> Tests are a way of largely seeing if a response to a question was memorized. Some tests require memorized knowledge, like what is the stall speed of your airplane. Some tests require reasoning skills, like what is the stress in this beam.
- j45 11mo agoThese are different levels of learning. There are learning frameworks that explain it all well enough. Learning what something is, vs applying what you learned has different terminology in the learning world, but not everyone might use that.
- rixed 11mo agoI really believe this is the way forward, but how do you make sure the AI is speaking to the student rather than to another AI impersonating the student? You could make it in person but that's a bit sad.
- j45 11mo agoYou make it about the student and the material in all ways. There are teaching frameworks and methedologies that help.
- bluefirebrand 11mo ago> 4. Use AI to talk to the student to find out if they understand Personally I don't believe that any of the problems caused by AI are going to be solved by "more AI"
- j45 11mo agoTechnology doesn't solve the problems created by technology on it's own. People do learn how to use the web, social media, mobile devices to ultimately work for them or against them.
- bluefirebrand 11mo ago> People do learn how to use the web, social media, mobile devices to ultimately work for them or against them How is this working out in practice? Every piece of technology is absolutely adversarial nowadays and people are getting ground to bits by it.
- SoftTalker 11mo agoYou were also asked to write an essay because to learn to write you have to ... write.
- miki123211 11mo agoOr option 4 (a lot more likely in my opinion), pretend nothing is happening.
- skeeter2020 11mo agooption 4b: resolve the teacher from being the gatekeeper who has to "prove" knowledge has been imparted, accepted and consolidated? It's your idea, but with explicit candor and not a sly wink :)