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Both Chrome and Aluminium are Linux, so which are you trying to say is better? Or are you saying more conventional Linux is superior? Gnu/Linux is a good ter

Both Chrome and Aluminium are Linux, so which are you trying to say is better? Or are you saying more conventional Linux is superior? Gnu/Linux is a good term for that.

dontlaugh 1y ago
It’s not a great term, there is a small and shrinking proportion of GNU in most distros. Things like systemd or Wayland are far more important.
- bryanlarsen 1y ago
  Systemd is Gnu licensed.
  - fsflover 1y ago
    "GNU" in "GNU/Linux" isn't about the license but about the GNU OS, https://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-linux-faq.html#why https://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-linux-faq.html#why
  - yjftsjthsd-h 1y ago
    That is not how anyone uses that term. For starters, Linux is also GPL licensed, so if it was like that then we wouldn't bother calling it GNU/Linux, we could just call it GNU. More to the point though, being GPL-licensed doesn't make something part of the GNU project.
    - Max_Limelihood 1y ago
      GNU/GNU
      - yjftsjthsd-h 11mo ago
        I've actually used GNU/GNU to refer to HURD:)
bigstrat2003 1y ago
When someone says "Linux" in isolation, they mean a conventional Linux distribution. Only extreme pedants and Richard Stallman call it "GNU/Linux".
- surajrmal 1y ago
  I prefer to call it systems/Linux these days. The amount of gnu bits in a desktop Linux distro is ever shrinking.
  - pxc 1y ago
    > The amount of gnu bits in a desktop Linux distro is ever shrinking. What GNU software is actually being removed from any distro?
    - Max_Limelihood 1y ago
      Ubuntu replaced their core userland utils with uutils, so the bulk of it. I’m guessing most other distros will follow suit.
      - pxc 11mo ago
        Huh. I didn't know Ubuntu had replaced GNU coreutils. I'm not sure that alone counts as "the bulk of it", but it's definitely very significant.
    - surajrmal 11mo ago
      pipewire, systemd, Wayland, etc. none of that is produced or maintained by GNU.
      - pxc 11mo ago
        ALSA, sysvinit, and Xorg weren't GNU projects, either.
- bryanlarsen 1y ago

Both Chrome and Aluminium are Linux, so which are you trying to say is better? Or are you saying more conventional Linux is superior? Gnu/Linux is a good term for that.

dontlaugh 1y ago

It’s not a great term, there is a small and shrinking proportion of GNU in most distros. Things like systemd or Wayland are far more important.

bryanlarsen 1y ago
Systemd is Gnu licensed.
- fsflover 1y ago
  "GNU" in "GNU/Linux" isn't about the license but about the GNU OS, https://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-linux-faq.html#why https://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-linux-faq.html#why
- yjftsjthsd-h 1y ago
  That is not how anyone uses that term. For starters, Linux is also GPL licensed, so if it was like that then we wouldn't bother calling it GNU/Linux, we could just call it GNU. More to the point though, being GPL-licensed doesn't make something part of the GNU project.
  - Max_Limelihood 1y ago
    GNU/GNU
    - yjftsjthsd-h 11mo ago
      I've actually used GNU/GNU to refer to HURD:)

bigstrat2003 1y ago

When someone says "Linux" in isolation, they mean a conventional Linux distribution. Only extreme pedants and Richard Stallman call it "GNU/Linux".

surajrmal 1y ago
I prefer to call it systems/Linux these days. The amount of gnu bits in a desktop Linux distro is ever shrinking.
- pxc 1y ago
  > The amount of gnu bits in a desktop Linux distro is ever shrinking. What GNU software is actually being removed from any distro?
  - Max_Limelihood 1y ago
    Ubuntu replaced their core userland utils with uutils, so the bulk of it. I’m guessing most other distros will follow suit.
    - pxc 11mo ago
      Huh. I didn't know Ubuntu had replaced GNU coreutils. I'm not sure that alone counts as "the bulk of it", but it's definitely very significant.
  - surajrmal 11mo ago
    pipewire, systemd, Wayland, etc. none of that is produced or maintained by GNU.
    - pxc 11mo ago
      ALSA, sysvinit, and Xorg weren't GNU projects, either.
bryanlarsen 1y ago