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Now imagine this but its a courtroom and you're facing 25 years

stocksinsmocks 11mo ago
Family law judges, in my small experience, are so uninterested in the basic facts of a case that I would actually trust an LLM to do a better job. Not quite what you mean, but maybe there is a silver lining. We are already (in the US) living in a system of soft social-credit scores administered by ad tech firms and non-profits. So “the algorithms says you’re guilty” has already been happening in less dramatic ways.
- reverius42 11mo ago
  In what ways to ad tech firms or non-profits use algorithms to assign you any kind of score that matters for your life?
perihelions 11mo ago
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14238786 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14238786 ("Sent to Prison by a Software Program’s Secret Algorithms (nytimes.com)") https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14285116 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14285116 ('Justice.exe: Bias in Algorithmic sentencing (justiceexe.com)") https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43649811 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43649811 ("Louisiana prison board uses algorithms to determine eligility for parole (propublica.org)") https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11753805 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11753805 ("Machine Bias (propublica.org)")
- Terr_ 11mo ago
  https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11374696/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11374696/ > language models are more likely to suggest that speakers of [African American English] be assigned less-prestigious jobs, be convicted of crimes and be sentenced to death. This one is just so extra insidious to me, because it can happen even when a well-meaning human has already "sanitized" overt references to race/ethnicity, because the model is just that good at learning (bad but real) signals in the source data.
GuinansEyebrows 11mo ago
The legal system has never been so easy thanks to Cinco e-Trial! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XL2RLTmqG4w https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XL2RLTmqG4w

Family law judges, in my small experience, are so uninterested in the basic facts of a case that I would actually trust an LLM to do a better job. Not quite what you mean, but maybe there is a silver lining. We are already (in the US) living in a system of soft social-credit scores administered by ad tech firms and non-profits. So “the algorithms says you’re guilty” has already been happening in less dramatic ways.

reverius42 11mo ago
In what ways to ad tech firms or non-profits use algorithms to assign you any kind of score that matters for your life?

perihelions 11mo ago

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14238786 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14238786 ("Sent to Prison by a Software Program’s Secret Algorithms (nytimes.com)") https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14285116 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14285116 ('Justice.exe: Bias in Algorithmic sentencing (justiceexe.com)") https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43649811 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43649811 ("Louisiana prison board uses algorithms to determine eligility for parole (propublica.org)") https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11753805 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11753805 ("Machine Bias (propublica.org)")

Terr_ 11mo ago
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11374696/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11374696/ > language models are more likely to suggest that speakers of [African American English] be assigned less-prestigious jobs, be convicted of crimes and be sentenced to death. This one is just so extra insidious to me, because it can happen even when a well-meaning human has already "sanitized" overt references to race/ethnicity, because the model is just that good at learning (bad but real) signals in the source data.

GuinansEyebrows 11mo ago

The legal system has never been so easy thanks to Cinco e-Trial! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XL2RLTmqG4w https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XL2RLTmqG4w