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> They have a desktop-sized 14nm EUV Who falls for this crap? An ASML EUV machine costs over $100 million and is delivered in dozens of shipping containers, ta
by KK7NIL 11mo ago
> They have a desktop-sized 14nm EUV
Who falls for this crap? An ASML EUV machine costs over $100 million and is delivered in dozens of shipping containers, taking up 2 floors in a fab.
You're going to need really extraordinary evidence that the PRC has a "desktop sized EUV machine" if you want us to believe you.
- ricardobeat 11mo agoThey announced this during an industry conference last week. It’s entirely different tech to ASML’s. This is the company/machine: http://lumi-universe.com/?list_27/84.html http://lumi-universe.com/?list_27/84.html You can check the dimensions there, max 80cm. This is only the EUV light source, not an entire wafer fab.
- generuso 11mo agoIt is not the same kind of equipment. ASML machines use a 500 watt EUV source in order to be able to expose a few wafers per minute. The tabletop device has the output power listed as "1 uw-10 mw". This is a source intended of spectroscopy instrumentation, not for exposing wafers.
- KK7NIL 11mo ago> This is only the EUV light source, not an entire wafer fab. When we say "EUV machine" in the semiconductor context, it's pretty unambiguous that we're talking about a lithography machine using EUV and that can do, at least, ~120 300 mm wafers per hour. As another comment explained, that machine you linked to is nothing like what we mean by "EUV machine", it's not even attempting to be a lithography tool. At first I thought you were being willingly misleading but your wording suggests you're not, so I suggest binging Asianometry on YouTube if you'd like to get up to speed on the semi industry.