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It’s widely known and reported this is happening. I guess this might get the message to people in the back who aren’t paying attention… but given we’ve had most

It’s widely known and reported this is happening. I guess this might get the message to people in the back who aren’t paying attention… but given we’ve had most of a decade of off-and-on coverage of this, anyone left is probably unreachable, and a bunch of them have been primed to ignore this exact sort of headline as “fake news”.

hbosch 11mo ago
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- harrisonjackson 11mo ago
  https://x.com/nikitabier/status/1992382852328255743?s=20 https://x.com/nikitabier/status/1992382852328255743?s=20 > This is fake news. Location was not available on any gray check account at any point. Furthermore, the DHS has only shown IPs from the United States since account creation. - head of product @x Not to discount the impact of foreign powers over social media but maybe don't spread this misinformation.
  - hbosch 11mo ago
    Does this make the fact that it showed as Israel, was disabled, and is now "corrected", mean that this feature is good or bad? Either we can trust all location data all the time, or we can trust none of it. We cannot expect Nikita Bier to swoop in on every suspicious tweet and try to educate us on IP range changes and DNS glitches or whatever. Furthermore is it more likely that a small set of special accounts seemingly never collected location data on signup, or that for a small number of accounts X simply modified that data post-hoc?
    - MayeulC 11mo ago
      > the fact that it showed as Israel Please re-read. That never happened.
      - hbosch 11mo ago
        It may have happened. There are already many users saying their "created in" locations were incorrect. Thus the rest of my comment: trust is binary. We can either be 100% certain the data is correct, or we must assume it is never correct.
        JumpCrisscross 11mo ago
        > trust is binary. We can either be 100% certain the data is correct, or we must assume it is never correct You’re mixing up trust and faith.
  - blitzar 11mo ago
    Blink twice if you are in danger.
- redindian75 11mo ago
  after it was reported/recorded, X "fixed" it by making .gov accounts untrackable. So now it doesnt show Israel anymore (and MAGA accounts now have an opportunity to scream fake news)
- Aarostotle 11mo ago
  Given the sibling comment here, I am wondering if you’ve fallen for a fake screenshot. I hope you did not make this up.
  - jsheard 11mo ago
    Yeah that DHS screenshot is fake. If you boost the exposure there's conspicuous gaps in the JPEG artifacts around the fields where they were edited. They would have got away with it if they just used Inspect Element!
    - HaZeust 11mo ago
      Are you sure? https://x.com/DHSgov/status/1992314672436175055 https://x.com/DHSgov/status/1992314672436175055 --- Head of Product at X also changed narratives in real-time, going from "this was never shown" for gray accounts like the DHS', to saying the feature was disabled due to incorrect information from IP ranges changing over time - when you're literally just checking their first IP check-in: https://x.com/lporiginalg/status/1992385445024665655 https://x.com/lporiginalg/status/1992385445024665655 --- And there was, to everyone's credit, DOZENS of X threads of people torture-testing their browser recordings to confirm whether the information was legit or not: https://x.com/AdameMedia/status/1992331293212963080 https://x.com/AdameMedia/status/1992331293212963080 --- Make your own decisions, but that's what I took from the situation.
      - jsheard 11mo ago
        > Are you sure? I'm sure that the screenshot going around shows signs of being edited, I checked that myself. For the rest, I have no idea. https://postimg.cc/gngQL6BY https://postimg.cc/gngQL6BY
        HaZeust 11mo ago
        Maybe THAT screenshot was, but it's not looking good that the information in that screenshot (doctored or not) wasn't exposed. Also fotoforensics is irrelevant, take a screenshot of an X account's information and you see those black bars. Why would they doctor the "@DHSgov" username otherwise lol?
morkalork 11mo ago
There was that whole Russian operation paying blogs, influencers and other alt-media personalities in the run up to the election that was investigated. Nothing came of it and no one cared. I lost all faith in anyone being reasonable at that point. People want to hear what they want to hear, you can tell about how it's a psyops all you want, they still don't care.

hbosch 11mo ago

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harrisonjackson 11mo ago
https://x.com/nikitabier/status/1992382852328255743?s=20 https://x.com/nikitabier/status/1992382852328255743?s=20 > This is fake news. Location was not available on any gray check account at any point. Furthermore, the DHS has only shown IPs from the United States since account creation. - head of product @x Not to discount the impact of foreign powers over social media but maybe don't spread this misinformation.
- hbosch 11mo ago
  Does this make the fact that it showed as Israel, was disabled, and is now "corrected", mean that this feature is good or bad? Either we can trust all location data all the time, or we can trust none of it. We cannot expect Nikita Bier to swoop in on every suspicious tweet and try to educate us on IP range changes and DNS glitches or whatever. Furthermore is it more likely that a small set of special accounts seemingly never collected location data on signup, or that for a small number of accounts X simply modified that data post-hoc?
  - MayeulC 11mo ago
    > the fact that it showed as Israel Please re-read. That never happened.
    - hbosch 11mo ago
      It may have happened. There are already many users saying their "created in" locations were incorrect. Thus the rest of my comment: trust is binary. We can either be 100% certain the data is correct, or we must assume it is never correct.
      - JumpCrisscross 11mo ago
        > trust is binary. We can either be 100% certain the data is correct, or we must assume it is never correct You’re mixing up trust and faith.
- blitzar 11mo ago
  Blink twice if you are in danger.
redindian75 11mo ago
after it was reported/recorded, X "fixed" it by making .gov accounts untrackable. So now it doesnt show Israel anymore (and MAGA accounts now have an opportunity to scream fake news)
Aarostotle 11mo ago
Given the sibling comment here, I am wondering if you’ve fallen for a fake screenshot. I hope you did not make this up.
- jsheard 11mo ago
  Yeah that DHS screenshot is fake. If you boost the exposure there's conspicuous gaps in the JPEG artifacts around the fields where they were edited. They would have got away with it if they just used Inspect Element!
  - HaZeust 11mo ago
    Are you sure? https://x.com/DHSgov/status/1992314672436175055 https://x.com/DHSgov/status/1992314672436175055 --- Head of Product at X also changed narratives in real-time, going from "this was never shown" for gray accounts like the DHS', to saying the feature was disabled due to incorrect information from IP ranges changing over time - when you're literally just checking their first IP check-in: https://x.com/lporiginalg/status/1992385445024665655 https://x.com/lporiginalg/status/1992385445024665655 --- And there was, to everyone's credit, DOZENS of X threads of people torture-testing their browser recordings to confirm whether the information was legit or not: https://x.com/AdameMedia/status/1992331293212963080 https://x.com/AdameMedia/status/1992331293212963080 --- Make your own decisions, but that's what I took from the situation.
    - jsheard 11mo ago
      > Are you sure? I'm sure that the screenshot going around shows signs of being edited, I checked that myself. For the rest, I have no idea. https://postimg.cc/gngQL6BY https://postimg.cc/gngQL6BY
      - HaZeust 11mo ago
        Maybe THAT screenshot was, but it's not looking good that the information in that screenshot (doctored or not) wasn't exposed. Also fotoforensics is irrelevant, take a screenshot of an X account's information and you see those black bars. Why would they doctor the "@DHSgov" username otherwise lol?

morkalork 11mo ago

There was that whole Russian operation paying blogs, influencers and other alt-media personalities in the run up to the election that was investigated. Nothing came of it and no one cared. I lost all faith in anyone being reasonable at that point. People want to hear what they want to hear, you can tell about how it's a psyops all you want, they still don't care.