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That's exactly how the term runtime is consistently used in the JS world... not sure it's misleading at all. Certainly less exciting/ambitious than if the inter

by gpm 11mo ago

That's exactly how the term runtime is consistently used in the JS world... not sure it's misleading at all. Certainly less exciting/ambitious than if the interpreter was also rewritten, but its what it says on the tin as I understand the words.

pjmlp 11mo ago
V8 and JSCore are a runtimes, everything else is made up stuff by people without background in compilers.
nerdponx 11mo ago
That's not at all what a runtime is, in any context, ever. Where else have you seen this solecism? It's new to me.
- munificent 11mo ago
  First sentence of the Wikipedia article for Node.js: > Node.js is a cross-platform, open-source JavaScript runtime environment that can run on Windows, Linux, Unix, macOS, and more. First sentence for the Wikipedia article Deno: > Deno is a runtime for JavaScript, TypeScript, and WebAssembly that is based on the V8 JavaScript engine and the Rust programming language. First line of hero text from Node.js's site: > Node.js® is a free, open-source, cross-platform JavaScript runtime environment that lets developers create servers, web apps, command line tools and scripts. First line of hero text from Deno's site: > Deno is the open-source JavaScript runtime for the modern web.
- gpm 11mo ago
  > Where else have you seen this Node.js is easily the most famous example. Also deno, bun, winterjs, and probably a bunch more. Someone upthread just linked a bunch of other equivalent lua projects that also refer to themselves as runtimes: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46036362 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46036362 I've also seen discussions where wrapping the servo-browser-engine in a UI layer referred to the UI layer as a runtime, though I think that's a substantially less canonical use of the word than referring to the part of an implementation that takes requests from the interpreter and executes them in the surrounding environment as a runtime.

by gpm 11mo ago

pjmlp 11mo ago

V8 and JSCore are a runtimes, everything else is made up stuff by people without background in compilers.

nerdponx 11mo ago

That's not at all what a runtime is, in any context, ever. Where else have you seen this solecism? It's new to me.

munificent 11mo ago
First sentence of the Wikipedia article for Node.js: > Node.js is a cross-platform, open-source JavaScript runtime environment that can run on Windows, Linux, Unix, macOS, and more. First sentence for the Wikipedia article Deno: > Deno is a runtime for JavaScript, TypeScript, and WebAssembly that is based on the V8 JavaScript engine and the Rust programming language. First line of hero text from Node.js's site: > Node.js® is a free, open-source, cross-platform JavaScript runtime environment that lets developers create servers, web apps, command line tools and scripts. First line of hero text from Deno's site: > Deno is the open-source JavaScript runtime for the modern web.
gpm 11mo ago
> Where else have you seen this Node.js is easily the most famous example. Also deno, bun, winterjs, and probably a bunch more. Someone upthread just linked a bunch of other equivalent lua projects that also refer to themselves as runtimes: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46036362 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46036362 I've also seen discussions where wrapping the servo-browser-engine in a UI layer referred to the UI layer as a runtime, though I think that's a substantially less canonical use of the word than referring to the part of an implementation that takes requests from the interpreter and executes them in the surrounding environment as a runtime.