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Let's not pretend it's ever moral to support the state you live under. You should support yourself and bide whatever state imposes itself on you.
by MangoToupe 11mo ago
Let's not pretend it's ever moral to support the state you live under. You should support yourself and bide whatever state imposes itself on you.
- mrguyorama 11mo agoIt is usually morally correct to fight off literal tyrannical invasion, what are you on about? Are you seriously suggesting it wasn't moral for the French to fight the Nazis or the people of Afghanistan to fight off the Soviets and Americans? >You should support yourself and bide whatever state imposes itself on you. Pathetic. Might as well go back to feudalism with that attitude. It is not nationalism to want a sovereign nation that you have influence over, that's democracy.
- MangoToupe 11mo agoOk, so why do people not violently rise up against the us government? They clearly have never represented our values, and they use the pretense of sovereignty to act as if their behavior reflects our interest. > It is not nationalism to want a sovereign nation that you have influence over, that's democracy. So what's our excuse? Do we not have a democracy, or are we simply a contemptible people?
- n4r9 11mo agoA lot of people believe that Trump represents their values. They might be dead wrong, but it's what they believe that counts.
- laughing_man 11mo agoEver? No. Whether or not it's moral to support the state under which you live depends entirely on the circumstances. In the best case the state is mostly an expression of the will of the nation, and if your country is invaded you support the state. But even if the state is parasitical, in the case of an invasion it's usually moral to support it.