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Blaming Bush is justified because he lied about WoD. Obama pulled out in 2011, the date Bush agreed to in 2008. Are you referring to 2014s invasion because of

• shallowsax 11mo ago
  I'm not referring to any specific actions or commenting on who did what. I summarized what I've observed to be the common perception, which is that Iraq and Afghanistan were "forever wars" conducted against the informed consent of the American public, and a spectacular failure of our institutions and both party establishments. If that sounds lacking in nuance, well, I never claimed to believe American political discourse was particularly nuanced ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
  • Braxton1980 11mo ago
    Are both parties equally responsible? Shouldn't discussions be as nuanced as possible if change is expected?
    • shallowsax 11mo ago
      Of course they're not. Ideally they would be, but I haven't observed that they generally are and wouldn't make such a claim.