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I suspect people want fare enforcement basically because it helps keeps the aggressive/crazy/assholes off. Not because they want to collect more money. Anecdo
by x0x0 11mo ago
I suspect people want fare enforcement basically because it helps keeps the aggressive/crazy/assholes off. Not because they want to collect more money.
Anecdotally, the bart gates seem to have improved the riding experience.
Some data from LA:
> Of the 153 violent crimes perpetrated on Metro between May 2023 and April 2024, 143 of them — more than 93% — were believed to be committed by people who did not pay a valid fare and were using the transit system illegally.
https://ktla.com/news/local-news/metro-violence-largely-perpetrated-by-those-without-legal-fare-stats-show/ https://ktla.com/news/local-news/metro-violence-largely-perp...
- eru 11mo ago> I suspect people want fare enforcement basically because it helps keeps the aggressive/crazy/assholes off. Not because they want to collect more money. Well, it's also a matter of fairness: I'm a law-abiding citizen, and I pay for my bus fare. It's the Right Think to do. But if I'm paying, I want the other guys to pay as well.
- x0x0 11mo agoI get that; the cost of enforcement makes that likely negative (possibly even very negative) to the system. My claim is letting trash act like, well, trash and street people wild out on the system drives lots of commuters off. And ime, the worst riders are disproportionally fare thieves.
- eru 11mo ago> I get that; the cost of enforcement makes that likely negative (possibly even very negative) to the system. Depends on prevailing social norms, I guess?
- x0x0 11mo agoOh it certainly does. America has let the requirements for behavior in our larger cities decay to openly allowing criminal behavior. It's wild.