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why not go in the other direction and get them housing and healthcare so they can be treated like people and will also not disrupt your ride people from outsid
by tehjoker 11mo ago
why not go in the other direction and get them housing and healthcare so they can be treated like people and will also not disrupt your ride
people from outside the US often think it’s a land of fabulously rich ppl and are aghast at how we treat our citizens
- matt-p 11mo agoI'm pro paying for them to get whatever housing and healthcare they need via taxes, just like everyone else. It's not like it's that simple though. Giving someone a house and a doctor will not get them off heroin on its own and may not even help them very much at all honestly.
- naikrovek 11mo ago> Giving someone a house and a doctor will not get them off heroin on its own and may not even help them very much at all honestly. Giving someone a house and health care will, though. Every addict I have ever known (I’ve known many) consume drugs in order to escape something. Addressing this while also treating the user will indeed help them. Mental health care + physical health care = “health care” in my opening sentence. I don’t know what it is about people in the US, but almost all of us completely reject the idea that someone can be held down entirely by their own mind. Large amounts of people are, and those that don’t seem to understand that this is possible are often people whose own mind holds them down, but not so much that they’re homeless. People in other countries get this. We do not. I don’t understand it.
- undeveloper 11mo agoit's actually highly effective for a majority of people. [1] Otherwise, what do you propose? 1: https://nlihc.org/resource/new-study-finds-providing-people-experiencing-homelessness-housing-has-positive-impacts https://nlihc.org/resource/new-study-finds-providing-people-...
- vidarh 11mo agoMost heroin addicts can be remarkably close to a normal functioning healthy person if they don't live in precarious conditions without access to a clean supply. The proportion of heroin addicts who would still be wrecks with healthcare that extends to prescribing what they need is miniscule. So the first problem is thinking you need to get them off heroin to be able to start dramatically helping.
- chairmansteve 11mo agoEasier to charge a dollar. Solve the simple problem first. Then tackle the more complex.
- throwaway984393 11mo agoMore like never tackle the complex
- bikelang 11mo agoThe less average people are inconvenienced, the less urgency there is to tackle harder problems. This is a nation that seems to only be able to kick the can down the road.
- chairmansteve 11mo agoProbably. But at least you've solved one problem.
- ggfdh 11mo ago> people from outside the US often think it’s a land of fabulously rich ppl and are aghast at how we treat our citizens We can have concern for residents who feel justifiably unsafe and uncomfortable on public transit as well as homeless riders.
- whatsupdog 11mo agoDo you really think people are homeless because of lack of housing? Have you seen what becomes of a house when homeless people are moved into one? A huge percentage of homeless are homeless by choice.
- tclancy 11mo agoHang on, in another comment you say you’re in Dubai where there aren’t any homeless. So how are you seeing this?