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I fired up my 10yrs old windows 7 PC for the first time in forever and was appalled at how snappy and quick the OS was compared to my same spec win10 PC. As a c

by cons0le 11mo ago

I fired up my 10yrs old windows 7 PC for the first time in forever and was appalled at how snappy and quick the OS was compared to my same spec win10 PC. As a career primarily-microsoft-shop engineer I'm done with windows for personal use. I'll never forgive the for wasting everyones time with this garbage. Meanwhile I constantly find bugs from before 2002 that are still in windows10. Windows honestly made me slowly hate all computers. The only piece of technology in my life that does exactly what it's supposed to do are my keyboards where I make the firmware. Everything else is pop up ridden dogshit

intrasight 11mo ago
Windows 7 was peak windows
- fancyswimtime 11mo ago
  windows xp pre uac was a golden age ;)
  - fragmede 11mo ago
    win98 SE
    - tscherno 11mo ago
      Peak usability by being able to type a url in to the file manager or a local path in to your browser and have it open in the same window.
      - fragmede 11mo ago
        and also peak crashibility. con/con, anyone?
        Grazester 11mo ago
        I think you're mistaking Windows millennium for Windows 98 SE
        fragmede 11mo ago
        I never got into ME. 98SE was my jam. While we're down this rabbit hole, my favorite bit was wrapping up the versions of windows: CE, ME, and NT: Windows CEMENT.
      - stuaxo 11mo ago
        Same in Nautilus.
- GeekyBear 11mo ago
  Windows 2000 was the last version where Dave Cutler ran the whole show. There are certainly features in later versions I wouldn't want to live without, but the decay began when he was moved to other products.
- jeswin 11mo ago
  To me that was Windows 2000. One day in 1999, I was at the local bookstore going over computer magazines and one of them came with CD to preview Windows 2000. I was mostly a Windows 98/RedHat user at that point, so I decided to try it out. It almost instantly won me over with the leap in stability due to the NT kernel, but the craziest thing was this feature called "Hibernate". This was the time when booting was painfully slow, and here was a feature that not just booted rapidly, but dropped me into the previous session with all apps open! It was pure magic. I switched over to Linux exclusively a few years after that, but this was the feature that prolonged that decision for a long time. I don't think Linux ever got a useable hibernate, but the feature became not as necessary due to the advent of SSDs.
- nacozarina 11mo ago
  Win7 desktops with W2008 backend was a solid platform with robust ecosystem They blew it all up with Longhorn/Metro, and have been doubling-down on denial ever since.
FridayoLeary 11mo ago
Have they fixed that sleep mode thing that doesn't work and drains your laptop battery?
- LoganDark 11mo ago
  "Modern Standby"? No, they haven't. Just make sure to unplug your laptop before you close the lid and it won't melt down.
  - FridayoLeary 11mo ago
    Still not? It's a feature everyone needs i'm assuming lots of people at microsoft own laptops. Mac probably figured it out around the same time as the declaration of independence was drafted.
    - hedora 11mo ago
      That one is arguably Intel’s fault. The last few generations of intel macbooks did the same thing, and I had the same issues under Linux (except they were debuggable there, and clearly Intel’s problem). Apple fixed it by switching to their own processors. MacOS is sliding fast too though. If I leave my MacBook plugged in overnight, it’s toasty in the morning at least half the time. Not sure how many times it died because it was low at night and I forgot to plug it in, and how many were failed sleeps. Power Nap or whatever it’s called is disabled.
  - Krssst 11mo ago
    This was ~2 years ago, but it didn't work on my side. Closing the lid would put the laptop to sleep then quickly wake it up, fan spinning at full speed even if unplugged. I think I used their diagnosing tool and one cause was some non-microsoft (installed by a driver I think, laptop as almost new) scheduled task, so not fully their fault, but forcing this kind of much weaker/unstable sleep without backup when S3 worked well is a bit crazy to me. (by the way the laptop was a Framework 13 AMD, curious if others experienced the same. Maybe they fixed it now)
arcanemachiner 11mo ago
I was recently using an ancient Celeron laptop from like 2006 with Windows Vista, a HDD, and something like 256 MB of RAM, and was blown away by how reasonably performant it was compared to my expectations, especially considering it was a budget laptop in its time.
- ewzimm 11mo ago
  All that performance is still available with Linux, and it's great. I use plenty of modern systems, but my home desktop is over 12 years old (from the last generation of hardware before everything was locked down) with Debian 13. Turn it on, log in, and the fraction of a second it takes for the login screen to disappear is all it takes for the system to be fully up and running.
WD-42 11mo ago
I feel this even in the edutainment system of my car. It’s one year old. Actual 1-2 second delays per key just to type in an address in the map. wtf is wrong with the industry now.

by cons0le 11mo ago

intrasight 11mo ago

Windows 7 was peak windows

fancyswimtime 11mo ago
windows xp pre uac was a golden age ;)
- fragmede 11mo ago
  win98 SE
  - tscherno 11mo ago
    Peak usability by being able to type a url in to the file manager or a local path in to your browser and have it open in the same window.
    - fragmede 11mo ago
      and also peak crashibility. con/con, anyone?
      - Grazester 11mo ago
        I think you're mistaking Windows millennium for Windows 98 SE
        fragmede 11mo ago
        I never got into ME. 98SE was my jam. While we're down this rabbit hole, my favorite bit was wrapping up the versions of windows: CE, ME, and NT: Windows CEMENT.
    - stuaxo 11mo ago
      Same in Nautilus.
GeekyBear 11mo ago
Windows 2000 was the last version where Dave Cutler ran the whole show. There are certainly features in later versions I wouldn't want to live without, but the decay began when he was moved to other products.
jeswin 11mo ago
To me that was Windows 2000. One day in 1999, I was at the local bookstore going over computer magazines and one of them came with CD to preview Windows 2000. I was mostly a Windows 98/RedHat user at that point, so I decided to try it out. It almost instantly won me over with the leap in stability due to the NT kernel, but the craziest thing was this feature called "Hibernate". This was the time when booting was painfully slow, and here was a feature that not just booted rapidly, but dropped me into the previous session with all apps open! It was pure magic. I switched over to Linux exclusively a few years after that, but this was the feature that prolonged that decision for a long time. I don't think Linux ever got a useable hibernate, but the feature became not as necessary due to the advent of SSDs.
nacozarina 11mo ago
Win7 desktops with W2008 backend was a solid platform with robust ecosystem They blew it all up with Longhorn/Metro, and have been doubling-down on denial ever since.

FridayoLeary 11mo ago

Have they fixed that sleep mode thing that doesn't work and drains your laptop battery?

LoganDark 11mo ago
"Modern Standby"? No, they haven't. Just make sure to unplug your laptop before you close the lid and it won't melt down.
- FridayoLeary 11mo ago
  Still not? It's a feature everyone needs i'm assuming lots of people at microsoft own laptops. Mac probably figured it out around the same time as the declaration of independence was drafted.
  - hedora 11mo ago
    That one is arguably Intel’s fault. The last few generations of intel macbooks did the same thing, and I had the same issues under Linux (except they were debuggable there, and clearly Intel’s problem). Apple fixed it by switching to their own processors. MacOS is sliding fast too though. If I leave my MacBook plugged in overnight, it’s toasty in the morning at least half the time. Not sure how many times it died because it was low at night and I forgot to plug it in, and how many were failed sleeps. Power Nap or whatever it’s called is disabled.
- Krssst 11mo ago
  This was ~2 years ago, but it didn't work on my side. Closing the lid would put the laptop to sleep then quickly wake it up, fan spinning at full speed even if unplugged. I think I used their diagnosing tool and one cause was some non-microsoft (installed by a driver I think, laptop as almost new) scheduled task, so not fully their fault, but forcing this kind of much weaker/unstable sleep without backup when S3 worked well is a bit crazy to me. (by the way the laptop was a Framework 13 AMD, curious if others experienced the same. Maybe they fixed it now)

arcanemachiner 11mo ago

I was recently using an ancient Celeron laptop from like 2006 with Windows Vista, a HDD, and something like 256 MB of RAM, and was blown away by how reasonably performant it was compared to my expectations, especially considering it was a budget laptop in its time.

ewzimm 11mo ago
All that performance is still available with Linux, and it's great. I use plenty of modern systems, but my home desktop is over 12 years old (from the last generation of hardware before everything was locked down) with Debian 13. Turn it on, log in, and the fraction of a second it takes for the login screen to disappear is all it takes for the system to be fully up and running.

WD-42 11mo ago

I feel this even in the edutainment system of my car. It’s one year old. Actual 1-2 second delays per key just to type in an address in the map. wtf is wrong with the industry now.