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I am dubious about "red meat" being called pro-inflammatory. Are there any studies showing that real red meat - say venison or grass fed beef or acorn-fed pork

I am dubious about "red meat" being called pro-inflammatory. Are there any studies showing that real red meat - say venison or grass fed beef or acorn-fed pork is inflammatory or harmful? I'd not be surprised if a comparative study of diets could show that higher amounts of red meat in the diet correlated with bad health, but I have never seen anything suggesting the red meat itself is a problem other than perhaps processed meat like hot dogs. Processed food - for sure, there are many aspects of most processed food that I think are harmful. Inflammatory I think generally means it's damaging the body in some way which causes inflammation.

cluckindan 11mo ago
Correct me if I’m wrong, but as I understand, it’s the quality of lipids in grain fed meat that causes inflammation. Grain feeding causes ratio of omega-3 to omega-6 polyunsaturated fatty acids get skewed towards more omega-6, which causes increased synthesis of pro-inflammatory interleukins and other PUFA metabolites.
- pluralmonad 11mo ago
  Recently started eating grass fed meat. Now every time I cook chicken thighs from a grocery store I cannot ignore the overt corn flavor. Its so disturbing I have cut back my chicken consumption significantly.
- lithocarpus 11mo ago
  Yes that makes sense. I'd still rather eat the grain fed meat than the grain itself, but best would be grass fed meat.
pengaru 11mo ago
> I am dubious about "red meat" being called pro-inflammatory. I dunno, recently I was told about alpha-gal syndrome which for the first time made me appreciate "red meat" has some special properties WRT human consumption. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha-gal_syndrome https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha-gal_syndrome https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galactose-alpha-1,3-galactose https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galactose-alpha-1,3-galactose
- lithocarpus 11mo ago
  "The condition results from past exposure to certain tick bites" This is a real thing I know two people who have it, but I haven't heard of any evidence that it applies to all people even in a small way. I'm open to hearing if you have, though.

cluckindan 11mo ago

Correct me if I’m wrong, but as I understand, it’s the quality of lipids in grain fed meat that causes inflammation. Grain feeding causes ratio of omega-3 to omega-6 polyunsaturated fatty acids get skewed towards more omega-6, which causes increased synthesis of pro-inflammatory interleukins and other PUFA metabolites.

pluralmonad 11mo ago
Recently started eating grass fed meat. Now every time I cook chicken thighs from a grocery store I cannot ignore the overt corn flavor. Its so disturbing I have cut back my chicken consumption significantly.
lithocarpus 11mo ago
Yes that makes sense. I'd still rather eat the grain fed meat than the grain itself, but best would be grass fed meat.

pengaru 11mo ago

> I am dubious about "red meat" being called pro-inflammatory. I dunno, recently I was told about alpha-gal syndrome which for the first time made me appreciate "red meat" has some special properties WRT human consumption. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha-gal_syndrome https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha-gal_syndrome https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galactose-alpha-1,3-galactose https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galactose-alpha-1,3-galactose

lithocarpus 11mo ago
"The condition results from past exposure to certain tick bites" This is a real thing I know two people who have it, but I haven't heard of any evidence that it applies to all people even in a small way. I'm open to hearing if you have, though.