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Slavery never ended in the US. And I imagine that the racial make-up of the inmates subjected to this treatment will surprise no one. Deconfederalization is 150
by underlipton 11mo ago
Slavery never ended in the US. And I imagine that the racial make-up of the inmates subjected to this treatment will surprise no one. Deconfederalization is 150 years late, but we can always get to it. Changing that state flag was a start. (In 2020. In 2020!)
- kaonwarb 11mo agoVery bad racially-motivated atrocities are perpetrated today. Characterizing that as "slavery never ended in the US" is trivializing a much, much worse past regime.
- dragonwriter 11mo agoIt is both technically (because of the penal exception in the 13th Amendment) and substantively (mass incarceration and penal slavery were adopted as policy directly and almost immediately as a replacement for chattel slavery, and have spread from their original geographic domain since) accurate, it doesn’t trivialize anything.
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- QuadmasterXLII 11mo agoOne of the great opportunities to improve politics in this country would be to increase our moral dynamic range, to be able to hold in our heads that slavery was very bad, for profit prisons are very bad, and slavery was much worse.
- Forgeties79 11mo agoThe 13th amendment explicitly provides a carve out (“as punishment”) for slavery/involuntary servitude. We still allow slavery in the USA. This incident took place at a prison, the “as punishment” space that allows the state to enslave American citizens.
- doublerabbit 11mo agoSlavery has never ended overall. The last I knew I was working for a company that powers their cogs earning millions whereby I get a pittance. Modern day slavery isn't forced unlike previous generational eras sure, but we still get ripped off for the sake of forced living.
- bee_rider 11mo agoI’ve got plenty of complaints about how capitalism works in practice. But the “force” bit is pretty fundamental to slavery, I think.
- RajT88 11mo agoMy boss has never beat me up. Only ever made passive aggressive comments.
- testing22321 11mo agoTrue, but if you stop working you’ll have no healthcare, and pretty soon no place to live and nothing to eat. It’s indirect, but it’s still force.
- ArnoVW 11mo agobut if you no longer work for your boss, why should he pay you? in fact, how could he pay you? if the value your work should create has not been created? do you want to force him to pay you? would that not just be the same thing in reverse? does that mean that everyone should be paid by everyone? I never understood this sort of reasoning.
- testing22321 11mo agoI’ve lived in a couple of countries where I continue to get healthcare and higher education and more when I’m not working. It’s very nice. Not surprisingly those countries are at the top of the most livable countries/cities in the world, while countries that don’t are not even in the top 50. Why is it ok to force someone to pay for fighter planes, moon missions and freeways but not for food and healthcare? Are you suggesting nobody should pay taxes?