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I just hope that in 100 years time, people will be shocked at the prevalence of social media these past 2 decades

Aurornis 11mo ago
I predict that in much sooner than 100 years social media will be normalized and it will be common knowledge that moderating consumption is just as important as it is with video games, TV, alcohol, and every other chapter of societies going through growing pains of newly introduced forms of entertainment. If you look at some of the old moral panic content about violent video games or TV watching they feel a lot like the lamentations about social media today. Yet generations grew up handling them and society didn’t collapse. Each time there are calls that this time is different than the last. In some spaces the moral panic has moved beyond social media and now it’s about short form video. Ironically you can find this panic spreading on social media.
- delis-thumbs-7e 11mo ago
  We moderate consumption of alcohol, sugar, gambling, and tobacco with taxes and laws. We have regulations on what you can show on TV or films. It is complete misuse of the term to claim a law prohibiting sale of alcohol for minors is ‘moral panic’. It is not some individual decision and we need those regulations to have a functioning society. Likewise in few generations we hopefully find a way to transfer the cost in medical bills of mental health caused by these companies to be paid by those companies in taxes, like we did with tobacco. At this point using these apps is hopefully seen to be as lame as smoking is today.
  - justinclift 11mo ago
    > We moderate consumption of alcohol, sugar, gambling, and tobacco with taxes and laws. For the US, would it be accurate to put "sex" on there as well?
    - delis-thumbs-7e 11mo ago
      Of course, and not just in US. I don’t think any sane person thinks we should not limit cousins getting married, non-consensual sexual acts, pedophilia, etc. In many places in Europe sex work is perfectly legal and taxed like any other business. In the past there has been stupid regulations on what consenting adults (of the same sex for instance) could do together. This created a system where group A could get married and were lauded, while the group B went to jail. I am not saying all laws and regulations are good, but we absolutely do need them, and we need to make them just and good. For instance, today we protect the group B’s rights to marry and love with laws.
      - justinclift 11mo ago
        The US kinds of stands out as far more um... "prudish" than most other countries though, at least in my understanding of things. And the US seem to be trying to spread its level of um... "prudish"-ness to any country it feels isn't as anti-sex? The VISA and Mastercard + Steam kerfuffle recently seems like that kind of thing, but there are heaps of instances in that set historically.
  - mike50 11mo ago
    Only over the air TV is regulated by the FCC. Films and non broadcast TV are only regulated if they contain obscene content. If anything there was more regulation of film production in the past. Hayes Code etc.
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- jraby3 11mo ago
  I don't think any of those items have had the significance and decisiveness of social media, or have been controlled by billionaires who have corrupted the election systems. Social media seems far more dangerous and harder to control because of the power it grants its "friends". It'll be much harder to moderate than anything else you mentioned.
- hollerith 11mo ago
  "Society didn't collapse" is a very very low bar.
- squigz 11mo ago
  > Yet generations grew up handling them and society didn’t collapse. Society did not collapse. That does not mean those things did not have negative effects on society.
wisty 11mo ago
In 100 years time they will be so fried by AI they won't be capable of being shocked. Everyone will just be swiping on generated content in those hover chairs from Wall E.
neilk 11mo ago
In Mad Men, we have these little moments of mind=blown by the constant sexism, racism, smoking, alcoholism, even attitudes towards littering. In 2040 someone's going to make a show about the 2010s-2020s and they'll have the same attitude towards social media addiction.
pier25 11mo ago
Not only social media but addiction to phones too. The impact on kids and teenagers is well documented by now.
- johnisgood 11mo ago
  Where are the parents when you need them?

I predict that in much sooner than 100 years social media will be normalized and it will be common knowledge that moderating consumption is just as important as it is with video games, TV, alcohol, and every other chapter of societies going through growing pains of newly introduced forms of entertainment. If you look at some of the old moral panic content about violent video games or TV watching they feel a lot like the lamentations about social media today. Yet generations grew up handling them and society didn’t collapse. Each time there are calls that this time is different than the last. In some spaces the moral panic has moved beyond social media and now it’s about short form video. Ironically you can find this panic spreading on social media.

delis-thumbs-7e 11mo ago
We moderate consumption of alcohol, sugar, gambling, and tobacco with taxes and laws. We have regulations on what you can show on TV or films. It is complete misuse of the term to claim a law prohibiting sale of alcohol for minors is ‘moral panic’. It is not some individual decision and we need those regulations to have a functioning society. Likewise in few generations we hopefully find a way to transfer the cost in medical bills of mental health caused by these companies to be paid by those companies in taxes, like we did with tobacco. At this point using these apps is hopefully seen to be as lame as smoking is today.
- justinclift 11mo ago
  > We moderate consumption of alcohol, sugar, gambling, and tobacco with taxes and laws. For the US, would it be accurate to put "sex" on there as well?
  - delis-thumbs-7e 11mo ago
    Of course, and not just in US. I don’t think any sane person thinks we should not limit cousins getting married, non-consensual sexual acts, pedophilia, etc. In many places in Europe sex work is perfectly legal and taxed like any other business. In the past there has been stupid regulations on what consenting adults (of the same sex for instance) could do together. This created a system where group A could get married and were lauded, while the group B went to jail. I am not saying all laws and regulations are good, but we absolutely do need them, and we need to make them just and good. For instance, today we protect the group B’s rights to marry and love with laws.
    - justinclift 11mo ago
      The US kinds of stands out as far more um... "prudish" than most other countries though, at least in my understanding of things. And the US seem to be trying to spread its level of um... "prudish"-ness to any country it feels isn't as anti-sex? The VISA and Mastercard + Steam kerfuffle recently seems like that kind of thing, but there are heaps of instances in that set historically.
- mike50 11mo ago
  Only over the air TV is regulated by the FCC. Films and non broadcast TV are only regulated if they contain obscene content. If anything there was more regulation of film production in the past. Hayes Code etc.
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jraby3 11mo ago
I don't think any of those items have had the significance and decisiveness of social media, or have been controlled by billionaires who have corrupted the election systems. Social media seems far more dangerous and harder to control because of the power it grants its "friends". It'll be much harder to moderate than anything else you mentioned.
hollerith 11mo ago
"Society didn't collapse" is a very very low bar.
squigz 11mo ago
> Yet generations grew up handling them and society didn’t collapse. Society did not collapse. That does not mean those things did not have negative effects on society.

wisty 11mo ago

In 100 years time they will be so fried by AI they won't be capable of being shocked. Everyone will just be swiping on generated content in those hover chairs from Wall E.

neilk 11mo ago

In Mad Men, we have these little moments of mind=blown by the constant sexism, racism, smoking, alcoholism, even attitudes towards littering. In 2040 someone's going to make a show about the 2010s-2020s and they'll have the same attitude towards social media addiction.

pier25 11mo ago

Not only social media but addiction to phones too. The impact on kids and teenagers is well documented by now.

johnisgood 11mo ago
Where are the parents when you need them?