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There's a fascinating and redacted interview with an "anonymous" subject about the disaster. To say the least it's an unsuccessful attempt to hide the identity

There's a fascinating and redacted interview with an "anonymous" subject about the disaster. To say the least it's an unsuccessful attempt to hide the identity of the individual: "Q. So how did you get yourself started into submersible operations? A. Well, I'm sure you're familiar with my film Titanic. When I set down the path to make that film, the first thing that I did was arrange to be introduced to the head of the submersible program at the P.P. Shirshov Institute in Moscow, a guy named..." https://media.defense.gov/2025/Sep/17/2003800984/-1/-1/0/CG-115_INTERVIEW-DEEP-SEA-EXPLORER_REDACTED.PDF https://media.defense.gov/2025/Sep/17/2003800984/-1/-1/0/CG-...

vlovich123 11mo ago
Let’s hear from L Simpson. No, that’s too specific. Let’s hear from Lisa S.
- vlovich123 11mo ago
  Took me forever to find the actual quote - ChatGPT and Gemini kept trying to gaslight me that it’s not a real quote or that Willie said it to Bart until I gave the exact quote (at which point normal search engines were fine): > A certain agitator, for privacy's sake, let's call her Lisa S. No, that's too obvious, let's say L. Simpson. Lisa the Vegetarian
  - edoceo 11mo ago
    When I grow up I'm going to Bovine University!
  - maybelsyrup 11mo ago
    In the future, Frinkiac [0] is your friend [0] https://frinkiac.com/ https://frinkiac.com/
  - monkpit 11mo ago
    If you google “Lisa S L Simpson” it’s the first thing that comes up… why make it harder with AI?
    - lanyard-textile 11mo ago
      … Quite ironically, Google results are AI… :)
    - palmotea 11mo ago
      >> Took me forever to find the actual quote - ChatGPT and Gemini kept trying to gaslight me that it’s not a real quote or that Willie said it to Bart until I gave the exact quote (at which point normal search engines were fine): > If you google “Lisa S L Simpson” it’s the first thing that comes up… why make it harder with AI? Because AI is the future! His employer is probably requiring him use it first for everything. Only when it fails (and you can tell), may other ways to solve the problem be tried.
    - sva_ 11mo ago
      I've recently randomly seen some younger guy running a basic calculation like 7*12 in chatgpt on his phone. It just had me in disbelief
      - abenga 11mo ago
        Every time I wade into X, I always see people asking "Grok is this true?" and I weep for humanity.
bmurray7jhu 11mo ago
"I think the most dangerous part of our whole operation was these young software engineers puking over the railing in a high sea."
cloudbonsai 11mo ago
Among the interviews, one with the former engineering director was the most eye-opening for me. https://data.ntsb.gov/Docket/Document/docBLOB?ID=17236880&FileExtension=pdf&FileName=Interview%20-%20OceanGate%20-%20Former%20Dir%20of%20Engineering%20I_Redacted-Rel.pdf https://data.ntsb.gov/Docket/Document/docBLOB?ID=17236880&Fi... It appears that all the engineers -- system designer, material engineer and structural analyst -- thought that OceanGate CEO was going to kill himself: If you ever find <name-of-the-engineer>, he’s not going to have a whole lot of nice to say. He was very frustrated with the company. (...) And I understand why. He thought Stockton was going to kill himself. And the director himself declined to dive on Titan when asked: Now, the question is, why wouldn’t the engineer get inside his own vehicle? It was because of what I felt -- and I have a background in Navy diving in EOD operations. I knew firsthand that the operations group was not the right group for that role, and I told him as much, that I don’t trust operations and who he has there.
- idontwantthis 11mo ago
  I read that the pilot was also basically suicidal. His wife had died, and he was completely fine with the danger because he would die doing what he loved, and he didn't really want to live anymore.
  - djmips 11mo ago
    Wasn't the pilot Stockton Rush? His wife was alive. Who are you referring to? I tried to check your claim but I couldn't verify it.
    - nagaiaida 11mo ago
      they're talking about nargeolet > Wreck expert Paul-Henri "P.H." Nargeolet, who was also onboard, told me he wasn't worried about what would happen if the structure of the Titan itself were damaged when at the bottom of the ocean. "Under that pressure, you'd be dead before you knew there was a problem." He said it with a smile. (as recounted by Arnie Weissmann, in Travel Weekly article published June 22, 2023)
bambax 11mo ago
Cameron did several TV interviews about the Titan, why would they redact his name? He didn't mince his words either; he was extremely critical of the whole thing before and after the disaster.
- desert_rue 11mo ago
  Maybe it is policy. If you have three experts in the field and you redact the details for two of the interviews taken, you can’t work it out that Bob was one of the two. Granted, they borked the redaction here.
  - Nextgrid 11mo ago
    Same policy that "redacted" the brand of the SD card, even though anyone that would be able to do anything with that information would immediately recognize it as a SanDisk.
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vlovich123 11mo ago

Let’s hear from L Simpson. No, that’s too specific. Let’s hear from Lisa S.

vlovich123 11mo ago
Took me forever to find the actual quote - ChatGPT and Gemini kept trying to gaslight me that it’s not a real quote or that Willie said it to Bart until I gave the exact quote (at which point normal search engines were fine): > A certain agitator, for privacy's sake, let's call her Lisa S. No, that's too obvious, let's say L. Simpson. Lisa the Vegetarian
- edoceo 11mo ago
  When I grow up I'm going to Bovine University!
- maybelsyrup 11mo ago
  In the future, Frinkiac [0] is your friend [0] https://frinkiac.com/ https://frinkiac.com/
- monkpit 11mo ago
  If you google “Lisa S L Simpson” it’s the first thing that comes up… why make it harder with AI?
  - lanyard-textile 11mo ago
    … Quite ironically, Google results are AI… :)
  - palmotea 11mo ago
    >> Took me forever to find the actual quote - ChatGPT and Gemini kept trying to gaslight me that it’s not a real quote or that Willie said it to Bart until I gave the exact quote (at which point normal search engines were fine): > If you google “Lisa S L Simpson” it’s the first thing that comes up… why make it harder with AI? Because AI is the future! His employer is probably requiring him use it first for everything. Only when it fails (and you can tell), may other ways to solve the problem be tried.
  - sva_ 11mo ago
    I've recently randomly seen some younger guy running a basic calculation like 7*12 in chatgpt on his phone. It just had me in disbelief
    - abenga 11mo ago
      Every time I wade into X, I always see people asking "Grok is this true?" and I weep for humanity.

bmurray7jhu 11mo ago

"I think the most dangerous part of our whole operation was these young software engineers puking over the railing in a high sea."

cloudbonsai 11mo ago

Among the interviews, one with the former engineering director was the most eye-opening for me. https://data.ntsb.gov/Docket/Document/docBLOB?ID=17236880&FileExtension=pdf&FileName=Interview%20-%20OceanGate%20-%20Former%20Dir%20of%20Engineering%20I_Redacted-Rel.pdf https://data.ntsb.gov/Docket/Document/docBLOB?ID=17236880&Fi... It appears that all the engineers -- system designer, material engineer and structural analyst -- thought that OceanGate CEO was going to kill himself: If you ever find <name-of-the-engineer>, he’s not going to have a whole lot of nice to say. He was very frustrated with the company. (...) And I understand why. He thought Stockton was going to kill himself. And the director himself declined to dive on Titan when asked: Now, the question is, why wouldn’t the engineer get inside his own vehicle? It was because of what I felt -- and I have a background in Navy diving in EOD operations. I knew firsthand that the operations group was not the right group for that role, and I told him as much, that I don’t trust operations and who he has there.

idontwantthis 11mo ago
I read that the pilot was also basically suicidal. His wife had died, and he was completely fine with the danger because he would die doing what he loved, and he didn't really want to live anymore.
- djmips 11mo ago
  Wasn't the pilot Stockton Rush? His wife was alive. Who are you referring to? I tried to check your claim but I couldn't verify it.
  - nagaiaida 11mo ago
    they're talking about nargeolet > Wreck expert Paul-Henri "P.H." Nargeolet, who was also onboard, told me he wasn't worried about what would happen if the structure of the Titan itself were damaged when at the bottom of the ocean. "Under that pressure, you'd be dead before you knew there was a problem." He said it with a smile. (as recounted by Arnie Weissmann, in Travel Weekly article published June 22, 2023)

bambax 11mo ago

Cameron did several TV interviews about the Titan, why would they redact his name? He didn't mince his words either; he was extremely critical of the whole thing before and after the disaster.

desert_rue 11mo ago
Maybe it is policy. If you have three experts in the field and you redact the details for two of the interviews taken, you can’t work it out that Bob was one of the two. Granted, they borked the redaction here.
- Nextgrid 11mo ago
  Same policy that "redacted" the brand of the SD card, even though anyone that would be able to do anything with that information would immediately recognize it as a SanDisk.

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