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I had to go on Youtube to listen to some of the music mentioned here, as I'm pretty out of the loop on it. Given what I heard I honestly think we're basically a

by sfblah 11mo ago

I had to go on Youtube to listen to some of the music mentioned here, as I'm pretty out of the loop on it. Given what I heard I honestly think we're basically at the point where AI can generate equivalent or even better music. It's just very simple and doesn't feel particularly innovative or noteworthy. Point being, I think it's likely this person is one of the last pop stars. Actually, as I'm writing this, I realized that probably the music being produced by this person is actually done by a computer. So, maybe she's in the first wave of totally artificial pop stars.

nprateem 11mo ago
Maybe you could tell all her fans how stupid they are and shouldn't enjoy her music. Why not save them from themselves with some of your approved recommendations?
- sfblah 11mo ago
  With pleasure!
empressplay 11mo ago
The novelty in pop music is not usually in the harmony. The novelty is usually in the presentation. The idea is that you hook the audience with familiarity (nostalgia) and then keep them with a novel expression of it. In recent years, this means really strange synth patches and vocal effects.
jameslk 11mo ago
It makes me sad to think you have formed this opinion on her more than decade long career that spans a variety of genres and many collaborations based on a few brat songs you may have listened to
- sfblah 11mo ago
  I'm open to changing my view! Please give some recommendations.
  - jameslk 11mo ago
    Music is a subjective thing, but what I like about Charli XCX is her albums have completely different sound from album to album, but are consistently fun to listen to. As if it puts you in a certain energetic mood. Listening to albums in full you can tell many tracks experiment with the genre. For example, she brought a niche thing like hyperpop to mainstream listeners in her prior 2 albums before brat. These are some that I like from various albums: https://youtu.be/CRYYBDG1b4Y https://youtu.be/CRYYBDG1b4Y https://youtu.be/f-NS9hnmWN4 https://youtu.be/f-NS9hnmWN4 https://youtu.be/JsYJYUQgT7k https://youtu.be/JsYJYUQgT7k https://youtu.be/chSZCtLrgz8 https://youtu.be/chSZCtLrgz8 https://youtu.be/5f5A4DnGtis https://youtu.be/5f5A4DnGtis
sethaurus 11mo ago
> Actually, as I'm writing this, I realized that probably the music being produced by this person is actually done by a computer. So, maybe she's in the first wave of totally artificial pop stars. Her main collaborator, co-creator and producer of many years is the artist AG Cook, who founded the label PC Music. He appears often in her music videos and gets mentioned in her lyrics. His own solo work plays a lot with pairing the artificial and the organic, taking the "slick" aesthetics of electronic pop to abrasive extremes and placing it next to vulnerability and gentleness. This is my favourite piece of his work (both the song and the video): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kH2wQ5speuU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kH2wQ5speuU Charli's work or his might not suit your taste! But these are real people doing interesting stuff and playing with the form. It's not fake.

by sfblah 11mo ago

nprateem 11mo ago

Maybe you could tell all her fans how stupid they are and shouldn't enjoy her music. Why not save them from themselves with some of your approved recommendations?

sfblah 11mo ago
With pleasure!

empressplay 11mo ago

The novelty in pop music is not usually in the harmony. The novelty is usually in the presentation. The idea is that you hook the audience with familiarity (nostalgia) and then keep them with a novel expression of it. In recent years, this means really strange synth patches and vocal effects.

jameslk 11mo ago

It makes me sad to think you have formed this opinion on her more than decade long career that spans a variety of genres and many collaborations based on a few brat songs you may have listened to

sfblah 11mo ago
I'm open to changing my view! Please give some recommendations.
- jameslk 11mo ago
  Music is a subjective thing, but what I like about Charli XCX is her albums have completely different sound from album to album, but are consistently fun to listen to. As if it puts you in a certain energetic mood. Listening to albums in full you can tell many tracks experiment with the genre. For example, she brought a niche thing like hyperpop to mainstream listeners in her prior 2 albums before brat. These are some that I like from various albums: https://youtu.be/CRYYBDG1b4Y https://youtu.be/CRYYBDG1b4Y https://youtu.be/f-NS9hnmWN4 https://youtu.be/f-NS9hnmWN4 https://youtu.be/JsYJYUQgT7k https://youtu.be/JsYJYUQgT7k https://youtu.be/chSZCtLrgz8 https://youtu.be/chSZCtLrgz8 https://youtu.be/5f5A4DnGtis https://youtu.be/5f5A4DnGtis

sethaurus 11mo ago

> Actually, as I'm writing this, I realized that probably the music being produced by this person is actually done by a computer. So, maybe she's in the first wave of totally artificial pop stars. Her main collaborator, co-creator and producer of many years is the artist AG Cook, who founded the label PC Music. He appears often in her music videos and gets mentioned in her lyrics. His own solo work plays a lot with pairing the artificial and the organic, taking the "slick" aesthetics of electronic pop to abrasive extremes and placing it next to vulnerability and gentleness. This is my favourite piece of his work (both the song and the video): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kH2wQ5speuU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kH2wQ5speuU Charli's work or his might not suit your taste! But these are real people doing interesting stuff and playing with the form. It's not fake.