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> Trusted Flaggers > 1 Pimmel Affäre > Schwachkopf Affäre Oder zuletzt > https://www.swr.de/swraktuell/baden-wuerttemberg/suedbaden/anklage-gegen-ehemaligen

> Trusted Flaggers > 1 Pimmel Affäre > Schwachkopf Affäre Oder zuletzt > https://www.swr.de/swraktuell/baden-wuerttemberg/suedbaden/anklage-gegen-ehemaligen-freiburger-schueler-wegen-beleidigung-100.html https://www.swr.de/swraktuell/baden-wuerttemberg/suedbaden/a... and last but not least: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bMzFDpfDwc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bMzFDpfDwc Germany is very much implementing censorship by chilling effect.

oezi 11mo ago
I think your examples aren't that much censorship but rather individuals/politicians asserting their rights not to let anybody smear them on social media. The rules which made e.g. insults illegal haven't changed but society stopped allowing anonymous people online getting away with it. Maybe some background for non-German readers on Pimmelgate (Dick gate): Pimmelgate happened when a secretary of state in one of the German states was called a 'dick' on social media and the politician had the guy who posted this swatted by state police. The state minister lost the resulting legal battle and was ridiculed online for his short fuse. Not pretty certainly. Certainly an abuse of power by a politician leading the police in that state, but also widely reported and criticized. In my mind it doesn't compare for instance Donald Trump going after Comey or suing public broadcasters.
- IlikeKitties 11mo ago
  You have not looked into all examples. Trusted flaggers have been used to suppress people they personally disagree with. Just recently the wrong comment caused another home invasion by the police that drew wide criticism > https://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/article68fa5facc014c78e37fb791f/selbst-taz-kritisiert-hausdurchsuchung-bei-publizist-norbert-bolz.html https://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/article68fa5facc014c... The Article I linked about the Bundeswehr was about a students satire against the military. And in the 60 Minute interview the prosecutors literally admit that they use illegal searches of your home as a punishment.
notrealyme123 11mo ago
Suggesting someone is part of the SS as an insult is something where courts should decide the judgment. Which in fact they did. I feel some people really want to make Germany more current-usa-free-speach
- IlikeKitties 11mo ago
  That picture did not suggest someone is part of the SS but that someone in the Bundeswher might have contacts to SS People. To argue that this should even go in front of a judge is insanity. Every carnival float in Düsseldorf every year would have to be evaluated by a judge than. Just a RANDOM example: https://www1.wdr.de/nachrichten/motivwaegen-von-jacques-tilly-106~_v-Podcast.png https://www1.wdr.de/nachrichten/motivwaegen-von-jacques-till... Freedom of speech includes satire. To ignore that is the exact chilling effect I mentioned.
  - notrealyme123 11mo ago
    If it's obvious then the judge says that. did the student got punished? What is the chilling effect if the defendant gets right?
    - IlikeKitties 11mo ago
      The violation of rights already began with the investigation for what anyone in good faith would consider satire. Even being investigated for this means having to defend oneself, perhaps hire an attorney, in case of this defendant having to have a gofundme equivalent to pay for it. Would you like to go to court for every post you do online? I cannot fathom how you cannot see that this is obviously designed to intimidate students criticizing the Bundeswehr or being violated by a medical examination as a draft preperation. Young people have to shut up and take it and if they don't, hope your pocketmoney covers attorneys fees! Just read the context of what happened here, it's easy to find. They did shit like using their mass suriveillance tech to find the phone this OBVIOUS SATIRE was posted from[0] [0]https://perspektive-online.net/2025/10/anzeige-wegen-meme-es-zeigt-zu-welchen-mitteln-staat-und-bundeswehr-greifen/ https://perspektive-online.net/2025/10/anzeige-wegen-meme-es...
patchymcnoodles 11mo ago
Schwachkopf-Affäre is a good example of how the right wings try to put in your head censorship and making you happy about having even more censorship in the future. There is a ton of fake stuff/news about it and it is used to block media even more.

oezi 11mo ago

I think your examples aren't that much censorship but rather individuals/politicians asserting their rights not to let anybody smear them on social media. The rules which made e.g. insults illegal haven't changed but society stopped allowing anonymous people online getting away with it. Maybe some background for non-German readers on Pimmelgate (Dick gate): Pimmelgate happened when a secretary of state in one of the German states was called a 'dick' on social media and the politician had the guy who posted this swatted by state police. The state minister lost the resulting legal battle and was ridiculed online for his short fuse. Not pretty certainly. Certainly an abuse of power by a politician leading the police in that state, but also widely reported and criticized. In my mind it doesn't compare for instance Donald Trump going after Comey or suing public broadcasters.

IlikeKitties 11mo ago
You have not looked into all examples. Trusted flaggers have been used to suppress people they personally disagree with. Just recently the wrong comment caused another home invasion by the police that drew wide criticism > https://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/article68fa5facc014c78e37fb791f/selbst-taz-kritisiert-hausdurchsuchung-bei-publizist-norbert-bolz.html https://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/article68fa5facc014c... The Article I linked about the Bundeswehr was about a students satire against the military. And in the 60 Minute interview the prosecutors literally admit that they use illegal searches of your home as a punishment.

notrealyme123 11mo ago

Suggesting someone is part of the SS as an insult is something where courts should decide the judgment. Which in fact they did. I feel some people really want to make Germany more current-usa-free-speach

IlikeKitties 11mo ago
That picture did not suggest someone is part of the SS but that someone in the Bundeswher might have contacts to SS People. To argue that this should even go in front of a judge is insanity. Every carnival float in Düsseldorf every year would have to be evaluated by a judge than. Just a RANDOM example: https://www1.wdr.de/nachrichten/motivwaegen-von-jacques-tilly-106~_v-Podcast.png https://www1.wdr.de/nachrichten/motivwaegen-von-jacques-till... Freedom of speech includes satire. To ignore that is the exact chilling effect I mentioned.
- notrealyme123 11mo ago
  If it's obvious then the judge says that. did the student got punished? What is the chilling effect if the defendant gets right?
  - IlikeKitties 11mo ago
    The violation of rights already began with the investigation for what anyone in good faith would consider satire. Even being investigated for this means having to defend oneself, perhaps hire an attorney, in case of this defendant having to have a gofundme equivalent to pay for it. Would you like to go to court for every post you do online? I cannot fathom how you cannot see that this is obviously designed to intimidate students criticizing the Bundeswehr or being violated by a medical examination as a draft preperation. Young people have to shut up and take it and if they don't, hope your pocketmoney covers attorneys fees! Just read the context of what happened here, it's easy to find. They did shit like using their mass suriveillance tech to find the phone this OBVIOUS SATIRE was posted from[0] [0]https://perspektive-online.net/2025/10/anzeige-wegen-meme-es-zeigt-zu-welchen-mitteln-staat-und-bundeswehr-greifen/ https://perspektive-online.net/2025/10/anzeige-wegen-meme-es...

patchymcnoodles 11mo ago

Schwachkopf-Affäre is a good example of how the right wings try to put in your head censorship and making you happy about having even more censorship in the future. There is a ton of fake stuff/news about it and it is used to block media even more.