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No light No light This is some kind of ultimate mancave, I can't imagine a girl working in there.

citricsquid 14y ago
They have a couple of female employees, their finance manager is female and has worked there for about a year, their "director of fun" (manages events, media relations) is also female and has worked there for about 8 months. They both talk highly of the office so I guess it's more than just a "man cave".
- trotsky 14y ago
  I'm sure they could love it, but honestly - what else would anyone say when asked publicly about their famous bosses' big money decorator binge?
  - citricsquid 14y ago
    To clarify, I don't mean when asked. Here is an example tweet from Lydia (directory of fun) after returning from a trip: http://twitter.com/LydiaWinters/status/248842453178781696 http://twitter.com/LydiaWinters/status/248842453178781696
JackC 14y ago
Hey, I don't know why you assume Mojang doesn't employ women. They totally have ... uh ... two female employees out of 28? http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Mojang_AB#Current_employees http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Mojang_AB#Current_employee... Oh, so that's why. Incidentally, I don't mean to call you out in particular, but when you call grownup female programmers "girls," lots of very cool women will decide to hang out somewhere else -- sort of for the same reason black men in the US aren't going to love it if someone calls them "boys." Not trying to police your language, just something to think about.
- paulhauggis 14y ago
  "sort of for the same reason black men in the US aren't going to love it if someone calls them "boys." Why oh why do you need to point this out? I use the words girls and guys all the time and it doesn't mean anything racist or sexist.
  - peterwwillis 14y ago
    I use the words girls and guys Boy, not guy. If you used 'boy' for a black male, it would be pretty racist. Know how today it's popular to call to someone by saying "Hey man", "Yo man", etc? That was a trend started by black men in response to racist white people calling them "boy" as a way to insult or demean. The stigma still exists throughout most of black culture because believe it or not, there's still parts of the south where full grown black men are called "boy" by ignorant/racist whites. Using "girl" is not in the same ballpark, so I can see how this may have slipped your mind, but some full-grown women don't like being called a "girl". It's demeaning in a similar way, though I don't believe it was intended to oppress the entire female sex, so it's not nearly as bad. If it's a professional setting, don't call people "girls" or "boys". It's just not respectful. If someone is over the age of 21, just use "woman" or "man", or whatever they prefer to be called. They will appreciate it.
    - Evbn 14y ago
      My 30 year old senior director calls herself a girl in the office. Intent matters more than vocabulary.
      - peterwwillis 14y ago
        Intent matters more than vocabulary. Just because something should matter more doesn't mean it does. I agree that vocabulary alone should not matter, but this isn't how the world works. You can't use 'the N word' in public because people don't differentiate your intent from the vocab. Same goes for all terms for all kinds of people. No matter what anyone calls themselves, it's important you treat all people with respect by default, regardless of how they act towards themselves or others. If your boss calls herself a 'girl', you should still call her a 'woman'. Sometimes people will unwittingly foster an unwelcoming culture by making jokes about themselves. Sexual harassment is one example. By calling herself a 'girl', and by making derogatory comments about women, this boss could be setting the standard for all women in the office to be treated, which is very unfair. The same thing happens with race, religion, etc.
knowaveragejoe 14y ago
You have a pretty serious misconception of aesthetic tastes of females. I know many that would -love- to work/hang out in a place like this, and they aren't geeky/nerdy/"gamer girls" either.

They have a couple of female employees, their finance manager is female and has worked there for about a year, their "director of fun" (manages events, media relations) is also female and has worked there for about 8 months. They both talk highly of the office so I guess it's more than just a "man cave".

trotsky 14y ago
I'm sure they could love it, but honestly - what else would anyone say when asked publicly about their famous bosses' big money decorator binge?
- citricsquid 14y ago
  To clarify, I don't mean when asked. Here is an example tweet from Lydia (directory of fun) after returning from a trip: http://twitter.com/LydiaWinters/status/248842453178781696 http://twitter.com/LydiaWinters/status/248842453178781696

JackC 14y ago

Hey, I don't know why you assume Mojang doesn't employ women. They totally have ... uh ... two female employees out of 28? http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Mojang_AB#Current_employees http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Mojang_AB#Current_employee... Oh, so that's why. Incidentally, I don't mean to call you out in particular, but when you call grownup female programmers "girls," lots of very cool women will decide to hang out somewhere else -- sort of for the same reason black men in the US aren't going to love it if someone calls them "boys." Not trying to police your language, just something to think about.

paulhauggis 14y ago
"sort of for the same reason black men in the US aren't going to love it if someone calls them "boys." Why oh why do you need to point this out? I use the words girls and guys all the time and it doesn't mean anything racist or sexist.
- peterwwillis 14y ago
  I use the words girls and guys Boy, not guy. If you used 'boy' for a black male, it would be pretty racist. Know how today it's popular to call to someone by saying "Hey man", "Yo man", etc? That was a trend started by black men in response to racist white people calling them "boy" as a way to insult or demean. The stigma still exists throughout most of black culture because believe it or not, there's still parts of the south where full grown black men are called "boy" by ignorant/racist whites. Using "girl" is not in the same ballpark, so I can see how this may have slipped your mind, but some full-grown women don't like being called a "girl". It's demeaning in a similar way, though I don't believe it was intended to oppress the entire female sex, so it's not nearly as bad. If it's a professional setting, don't call people "girls" or "boys". It's just not respectful. If someone is over the age of 21, just use "woman" or "man", or whatever they prefer to be called. They will appreciate it.
  - Evbn 14y ago
    My 30 year old senior director calls herself a girl in the office. Intent matters more than vocabulary.
    - peterwwillis 14y ago
      Intent matters more than vocabulary. Just because something should matter more doesn't mean it does. I agree that vocabulary alone should not matter, but this isn't how the world works. You can't use 'the N word' in public because people don't differentiate your intent from the vocab. Same goes for all terms for all kinds of people. No matter what anyone calls themselves, it's important you treat all people with respect by default, regardless of how they act towards themselves or others. If your boss calls herself a 'girl', you should still call her a 'woman'. Sometimes people will unwittingly foster an unwelcoming culture by making jokes about themselves. Sexual harassment is one example. By calling herself a 'girl', and by making derogatory comments about women, this boss could be setting the standard for all women in the office to be treated, which is very unfair. The same thing happens with race, religion, etc.

knowaveragejoe 14y ago

You have a pretty serious misconception of aesthetic tastes of females. I know many that would -love- to work/hang out in a place like this, and they aren't geeky/nerdy/"gamer girls" either.