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Author here. What I mean is that for an institution of higher education and intellectual research, the bar for ethical action should be higher. An apology (wit

by elashri 11mo ago

Author here. What I mean is that for an institution of higher education and intellectual research, the bar for ethical action should be higher. An apology (with guarantees and plans for improvement with oversight) is better than put a low price and call it cost of doing business. The damages or negative consequences are going to happen no matter what as information is already out there. My point is not about the money that as person I would get or not. My personal private information is mine and should be protected and the law require that. If anyone consider that it is worthless or not is irrelevant. And because the affect does happen on a scale. This breach for example affect probably close to 200k or more (maybe much more). My point is we shouldn't normalize that, just if "corruption" is widespread in a place then we should fight it not just say this is how things works. Same thing should happen here. And we should hold people responsible for the decisions liable. This way the simple decision of ignoring cybersecurity or outsource to the lowest bidder suddenly becomes unattractive. Also I don't understand the logic is that because I got "abused metaphorically" before then it is not a big deal if this happens to me again. Why do we accept this in such case and not in others? And actually in my particular case, the university breach was probably the first breach of my personal information (others happen later). why would that change anything?

eviks 11mo ago
> An apology (with guarantees and plans for improvement with oversight) is better than put a low price and call it cost of doing business How when this is a 0 price of doing business? And there is a plan: "the University has increased its vigilance in securing information that it maintains", after all "The safety and privacy of all members of the University community are a top priority" https://system.umn.edu/data-incident https://system.umn.edu/data-incident (this is from 23, not 21). And I'm sure there is some admin position for "oversight"! So if you're after empty words, they have those in spades! And would add the apology you requested if not for the extra legal cost, so I don't see how any of that is better. > Also I don't understand the logic Because you've perverted the logic from into some vague metaphorical abuse that can harm every time it happens. > Why do we accept this in such case and not in others? We don't because settlements such as this do not depend on whether the info is already public, so you get paid regardless. But also because in such case there is no harm (info is already public), and in other cases there is. > why would that change anything? for the exact same reason - because harm depends on the first publishing and you were talking about compensating for harm
rsync 11mo ago
“ What I mean is that for an institution of higher education and intellectual research, the bar for ethical action should be higher.” Who is the highest paid state employee in Minnesota? Hint: he works for umn.edu … [1] Who controls the largest budget at umn? Who drives the largest revenue for the state university program and hires and fires the other highest paid employees of the state? I am sorry to say that your expectations of the sports media enterprise that happens to also be a university are misplaced. Big conference universities are development leagues for the NFL and that is where expectations for behavior should be calibrated. [1] PJ Fleck - $7M annual salary in 2025.

by elashri 11mo ago

eviks 11mo ago

> An apology (with guarantees and plans for improvement with oversight) is better than put a low price and call it cost of doing business How when this is a 0 price of doing business? And there is a plan: "the University has increased its vigilance in securing information that it maintains", after all "The safety and privacy of all members of the University community are a top priority" https://system.umn.edu/data-incident https://system.umn.edu/data-incident (this is from 23, not 21). And I'm sure there is some admin position for "oversight"! So if you're after empty words, they have those in spades! And would add the apology you requested if not for the extra legal cost, so I don't see how any of that is better. > Also I don't understand the logic Because you've perverted the logic from into some vague metaphorical abuse that can harm every time it happens. > Why do we accept this in such case and not in others? We don't because settlements such as this do not depend on whether the info is already public, so you get paid regardless. But also because in such case there is no harm (info is already public), and in other cases there is. > why would that change anything? for the exact same reason - because harm depends on the first publishing and you were talking about compensating for harm

rsync 11mo ago

“ What I mean is that for an institution of higher education and intellectual research, the bar for ethical action should be higher.” Who is the highest paid state employee in Minnesota? Hint: he works for umn.edu … [1] Who controls the largest budget at umn? Who drives the largest revenue for the state university program and hires and fires the other highest paid employees of the state? I am sorry to say that your expectations of the sports media enterprise that happens to also be a university are misplaced. Big conference universities are development leagues for the NFL and that is where expectations for behavior should be calibrated. [1] PJ Fleck - $7M annual salary in 2025.