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Microsoft's head of AI doesn't understand why people don't like AI
- ChrisArchitect 11mo ago[dupe] Discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45984970 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45984970
- ChrisArchitect 11mo agoEarlier was: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46001727 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46001727
- yunnpp 11mo agoIn the old days you could just call someone a goddamn noob. Suleyman is a goddamn noob. He can't code for shit, so it's no wonder he doesn't understand the programmer's point of view, he can't understand why people are not as enthusiastic as he is. I am a programmer and I take pride in my work; I don't want an AI or anybody to do it for me. Of course, you wouldn't understand that if you're a noob, but that's fine. What's not fine is when you cross the line and you think you're hot shit when, in fact, you're still just a goddamn noob. Nobody wants to hear your shit; your opinion is irrelevant. I'm surprised Suleyman is the CEO of anything, for that matter. Does he have any interesting opinions on anything?
- nextworddev 11mo agoHe’s good at failing up and fundraising.
- ta9000 11mo agoCompanies care about output, not code typed out by programmers. Most of the code I write now is generated, and I’m “writing” more code than ever, and better tests. Many devs I know are doing the same with generative AI. Why isn’t that a win?
- AlotOfReading 11mo agoMy job is to build systems that work. Code is a liability sometimes needed to accomplish that. I don't want more of it unless there's some reason to believe the benefits outweigh the liability. Based on what I'm able to get from LLMs and especially what I'm seeing produced by others I know are using them, that's not often the case with agents.
- moi2388 11mo agoBecause that’s precisely what’s wrong with AI. It creates a lot of code, what could have been done with fewer code, or no code at all if you didn’t go on path A with AI, but thought about path B yourself.
- humanfromearth9 11mo agoThat strictly depends on your ability to direct it precisely with accurate prompts.
- s1mplicissimus 11mo ago> Why isn’t that a win? Because, as others have put it, "amount of written code" is more akin to "weight of an airplane" than "productivity"
- ta9000 11mo agoThat of course isn’t what I meant. I make sure the code I produce isn’t inefficient or verbose.
- Blamklmo 11mo ago[dead]
- pjmlp 11mo agoAI on Windows would be great, but for the stuff that matters, in a transparent way. First of all, don't use AI to yet another reason for people to throw away perfectly working computers, and helping the OEM buddies sell CoPilot+ PC, many GPUs can do the same job, and they are castrating on purpose, even with Windows ML reboot. Secondly it should be transparent, for stuff like handwriting recognition, OCR, image search, speech, and such. Not to fix a broken search that was working perfectly fine on Windows 7, or to surveil everything I do, getting the info into Microsoft servers and US government.
- zaphirplane 11mo agoOn that topic and without personal attacks cause he must be better at this than most people and most people here. How did he go from politics social activism to AI founder
- the_biot 11mo agoBetter at what though? Maybe he's just great at getting hired and promoted, without the benefit of actual skills or deep understanding of anything, and now finds himself in ignorance of all that he surveys. I've known many people like that.
- vyrotek 11mo ago"It's difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends on his not understanding it"
- moi2388 11mo agoI’m okay-ish with AI. I am not okay with its f-ING attitude. It’s a computer and should never say anything about my tone of voice, never deny a request and definitely not have artificial bias built in to “balance” it.
- procaryote 11mo agoMicrosoft's AI itegration seems especially bad. I've had the misfortune to use outlook recently, and the AI bits I notice are actively destructive: * it will guess who the person I'm talking to is to show a photo, usually failing and showing me a photo of someone else, making me double check that the contact is actually the correct one * it will all over the place suggest "related" documents or mail that usually aren't related. It often makes me worry I'd sent the wrong documents to the wrong person It has been useful exactly zero times
- s1mplicissimus 11mo agoIt is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends on his not understanding it Upton Sinclair, 1878–1968
- geldedus 11mo agoPeople like AI. People don't like obnoxious AI. Not the same.