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I'm absolutely empathetic to the European sentiment - the Gripen should be a mainstay in EU air forces on merit alone, F-35 be damned. But many of the nations b
by bigyabai 1y ago
I'm absolutely empathetic to the European sentiment - the Gripen should be a mainstay in EU air forces on merit alone, F-35 be damned. But many of the nations buying the F-35 aren't being swindled into it, they're filling a capability gap that really does threaten Russia in a meaningful way. Both systems can work together to leverage their advantages, and are designed to cooperate using Link 16. It doesn't have to be one-or-the-other, and buying both systems hedges against the possibility of either side pulling support.
If Europe doesn't want a deep strike capability against Russia, don't buy the F-35. Fill the gap with a regional stealth-bomber program like China did, or pool the various European stealth fighter projects together in a serious joint project. As-is, the only competitor to the F-35 can be bought from China, who will be more capricious with the supply chain in the long run.
- consumer451 1y agoThis is an excellent reply. The EU/NATO is still used to sucking on the teet of the USA, even though that is now gone. I only recently learned that "may you live in interesting times" was a curse, and not a blessing.
- consumer451 1y agoSecondary, for fun question: Help me win a dark bet with my mother. Given two locations: 1. Seattle, USA 2. Wrocław, Poland In which location is the military most likely to be seen outside of my window in 2026?