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All over this discussion, the big negative has nothing to do with missing out on stellar education, skill development, or expert teachers. Instead, it’s the per

by gbacon 11mo ago

All over this discussion, the big negative has nothing to do with missing out on stellar education, skill development, or expert teachers. Instead, it’s the perpetual handwringing that homeschooled kids won’t be Properly Socialized, i.e., be exposed to and have to endure mistreatment, disruption, and sometimes assault from other maladjusted, cruel, or even mentally ill peers — because that’s “the real world.” This is not the W for the government schools that proponents seem to think it is.

NoMoreNicksLeft 11mo ago
On reddit, they all believe that site has chased away the libertarians and nonconformists enough that they're no longer careful to keep the quiet parts to themselves: they want homeschooling banned so that the government can conduct surveillance on parents and instill the proper philosophical values to to the children.
programjames 11mo ago
A common justification for group projects was, "you have to learn how to work with people, even people who will not work." Yeah no, that's not the case. People get filtered through a much finer sieve when they're older.
- iteria 11mo ago
  But that's absolutely the case. You get on a project and someone falls ill or has to take care of someone ill. Or they're shit at their job. Or they're just not as dedicated as you. It doesn't matter if they get fired or accommodated, you have to get it done. You will be punished in some what for not getting it done, whether that is directly or indirectly. Group projects exist in any job with collaboration. You rarely get to choose your group unlike in school and at least proving someone is a slacker has a high chance of impact in school. It's not always the case at all at work. People discount school rituals, but they happen a lot. Pop quizzes happen all the time within my career. You don't always get to say, "I'll get back to you" as much as we all wish that was true.
  - anon291 11mo ago
    Actually as an adult you do choose your group. At will employment is an amazing thing

by gbacon 11mo ago

NoMoreNicksLeft 11mo ago

On reddit, they all believe that site has chased away the libertarians and nonconformists enough that they're no longer careful to keep the quiet parts to themselves: they want homeschooling banned so that the government can conduct surveillance on parents and instill the proper philosophical values to to the children.

programjames 11mo ago

A common justification for group projects was, "you have to learn how to work with people, even people who will not work." Yeah no, that's not the case. People get filtered through a much finer sieve when they're older.

iteria 11mo ago
But that's absolutely the case. You get on a project and someone falls ill or has to take care of someone ill. Or they're shit at their job. Or they're just not as dedicated as you. It doesn't matter if they get fired or accommodated, you have to get it done. You will be punished in some what for not getting it done, whether that is directly or indirectly. Group projects exist in any job with collaboration. You rarely get to choose your group unlike in school and at least proving someone is a slacker has a high chance of impact in school. It's not always the case at all at work. People discount school rituals, but they happen a lot. Pop quizzes happen all the time within my career. You don't always get to say, "I'll get back to you" as much as we all wish that was true.
- anon291 11mo ago
  Actually as an adult you do choose your group. At will employment is an amazing thing