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> Depression is caused by laziness [...]. My kids know that they aren't permitted to be lazy. Do you really believe this, or do you believe your children aren'
by poly2it 11mo ago
> Depression is caused by laziness [...]. My kids know that they aren't permitted to be lazy.
Do you really believe this, or do you believe your children aren't depressed? Your comment is not in accordance with science. Depression is a complex topic. I'm having trouble imagining a way to be more wrong. Is this satire?
- pizzafeelsright 11mo ago[flagged]
- piperswe 11mo agoIt's almost as if depression reduces your executive function, making it more difficult to exercise each day or consistently clean your house. And then you feel worthless for not being able to do those things, reinforcing the depression.
- pizzafeelsright 11mo agoI agree 100% and it is an uphill battle requiring significant effort. That is where discipline is required. Exercising that discipline will bring positive results. There is nothing other than self stopping someone from cleaning instead of crying under a blanket.
- konmok 11mo agoI know several depressed people that exercise every day and live in a clean house.
- pizzafeelsright 11mo agoThat's unfortunate. Ask they why they are depressed and see if there is any way to fix it.
- robertakarobin 11mo agoYou think they don't ask themselves that question all day, every day? reddit.com/r/thanksimcured
- superb_dev 11mo agoWhat people are trying to tell you is that in the case of clinical depression there isn't an easy fix because it's not caused by anything external. I have a very good support system in my life. If it was possible for a friend to come along and just fix it then I wouldn't have depression.
- esseph 11mo agoYou are very, very extremely inexperienced in this area, as anyone who deals with or has someone in their close family that deals with serious, life-threatening depression will tell you. And that's okay! I would encourage you to look at the number of comments from different people who have a history of dealing with this kind of thing for a long time.
- pizzafeelsright 11mo agoI'm reading them. What responsibility does an individual have over their situation.
- esseph 11mo agoADHD and some types of Depression are developmental / environmental. You're asking a person missing a leg to "just run, bro".
- skywhopper 11mo ago[flagged]
- tomhow 11mo agoWTF? You cannot comment like this on HN, no matter what you're replying to or how wrong you think they are. We've had to ask you before to avoid abusive comments. We have to ban accounts to do this repeatedly, and it's only because the parent comment was pretty bad too that I'm not banning you this time. Please take a moment to remind yourself of the guidelines and avoid ever commenting like this again if you want to keep participating here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- robertakarobin 11mo agoYou can use me as an example! When I got diagnosed I was very physically active and also quite clean. One of the hardest things for me with depression is the incredible guilt I have. What right do I have to be depressed when my life is objectively fine? Why should I get therapy when that might mean one less space for someone who is dealing with trauma or poverty or something else that gives them a "right" to be depressed? This causes a feedback loop of guilt leading to more depression and vice-versa. Like I tell my kids, it's normal to sometimes feel depressed or hopeless. If you're dealing with a difficult circumstance then it's reasonable to have those feelings, and the only way to address those feelings is to deal with the circumstance. What's not normal is feeling depressed and hopeless for no logical reason at all.
- arjie 11mo agoI appreciate your sharing your experience. I think it's very valuable that human beings describe to each other their decision making, actions, and outcomes. Often, people attempt to dissuade the sharing of information, and I think that leads to us, as humans, being less able to form an accurate model of the world. I appreciate your pushing through that form of opposition.
- V__ 11mo agoBlack swans do not exist. I have never seen one.
- nick__m 11mo agoyou have the causality reversed....
- pizzafeelsright 11mo agoGo on
- peepee1982 11mo agoIt’s pretty tough to exercise or clean your house when getting out of bed feels like an insurmountable task. Depression isn’t like an infection or cancer—it’s a diagnosis based on established criteria, as are most mental disorders. Experts may disagree on diagnosis or treatment, but that doesn’t make it useless. By that logic, you might as well say autism is caused by avoiding eye contact—since there’s no blood test for it either.
- pizzafeelsright 11mo agoI'm autistic by some measure. Eye contact is uncomfortable but I push myself. I avoid it most of the time but yet play the game and do my best. I'm finally at the point where I'll keep eye contact until I've completed the social requirement.
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- collingreen 11mo agoThis is a pretty nasty line to double down on. I hope you can take your personal anecdotes and add them to a larger body of research and other people's experience to refine your understanding. If you're right that everyone who has Depression is actually just lazy, you'll see lots of support for that. If, instead, you find a lot of different experiences you might conclude that Depression is a pretty nuanced and complicated topic, which might both expand your understanding and help you bring more empathy to the suffering people around you.