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Maybe? It would have to be a pretty big theft to go to all the trouble of finding the vehicle on camera, identifying the owner, figuring out if the thief was th

Maybe? It would have to be a pretty big theft to go to all the trouble of finding the vehicle on camera, identifying the owner, figuring out if the thief was the owner, etc. They aren’t going to do all that if it’s a relatively small value theft. And the big value stuff is usually locked down. And if it’s for their own protection why be part of a bigger network shared with law enforcement for whatever they (LEO) wants?

wakawaka28 11mo ago
There is no maybe about it. These thefts are well-known and spur the defensive measures you're talking about. It goes beyond just locking things up. There are AI systems tracking your movement through the store, and they can even immobilize your shopping cart on the way out if they think you didn't pay. Some tools also have RFID based activation schemes, without which they can't be used. It is the job of the police to investigate thefts. Therefore it kind of makes sense why they might want to put up cameras in high crime areas. We just don't want the cameras to be abused. I don't want to be tracked and have the contents of my house itemized by systems like this. Is there a less intrusive way to prevent crime, perhaps by posting a security guard? I think so. But what does it cost, and would you rather pay for that or deal with the camera?
- pugworthy 11mo ago
  Why not Target and Walmart then? Or Costco?
  - wakawaka28 11mo ago
    The stuff on their shelves is less valuable. They also get more traffic and seem to have more security cameras and staff. Target has had a lot of thefts. If I'm not mistaken, Target had an AI system to track faces of shoplifters and the accumulated value of the stuff that was stolen. Costco won't generally let you in if you don't have a membership, and there are people at the entrances and exits at all times. Have you not seen the stores like Walgreens that have very basic toiletries behind glass? This stuff is very location dependent and some cities (most?) are still normal. Many stores including Target and Walmart are using AI to track shoplifters. They have had to resort to adding up thefts over time until it totals over $1000 or something, because theft is so pervasive. That's not the kind of theft you need outside cameras for, but these stores see it all.

wakawaka28 11mo ago

There is no maybe about it. These thefts are well-known and spur the defensive measures you're talking about. It goes beyond just locking things up. There are AI systems tracking your movement through the store, and they can even immobilize your shopping cart on the way out if they think you didn't pay. Some tools also have RFID based activation schemes, without which they can't be used. It is the job of the police to investigate thefts. Therefore it kind of makes sense why they might want to put up cameras in high crime areas. We just don't want the cameras to be abused. I don't want to be tracked and have the contents of my house itemized by systems like this. Is there a less intrusive way to prevent crime, perhaps by posting a security guard? I think so. But what does it cost, and would you rather pay for that or deal with the camera?

pugworthy 11mo ago
Why not Target and Walmart then? Or Costco?
- wakawaka28 11mo ago
  The stuff on their shelves is less valuable. They also get more traffic and seem to have more security cameras and staff. Target has had a lot of thefts. If I'm not mistaken, Target had an AI system to track faces of shoplifters and the accumulated value of the stuff that was stolen. Costco won't generally let you in if you don't have a membership, and there are people at the entrances and exits at all times. Have you not seen the stores like Walgreens that have very basic toiletries behind glass? This stuff is very location dependent and some cities (most?) are still normal. Many stores including Target and Walmart are using AI to track shoplifters. They have had to resort to adding up thefts over time until it totals over $1000 or something, because theft is so pervasive. That's not the kind of theft you need outside cameras for, but these stores see it all.