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The US did not agree to protect them. The signatures to the Budapest Memorandum agreed to respect Ukraine's sovereignty. Of the signatories, Russia is the only
by wat10000 1y ago
The US did not agree to protect them. The signatures to the Budapest Memorandum agreed to respect Ukraine's sovereignty. Of the signatories, Russia is the only one that has violated the agreement.
- HappyPanacea 1y agoAre you sure about that? Wikipedia says the following: " 3. Refrain from economic coercion designed to subordinate to their own interest the exercise by Ukraine, the Republic of Belarus, and Kazakhstan of the rights inherent in its sovereignty and thus to secure advantages of any kind. 4. Seek immediate Security Council action to provide assistance to the signatory if they "should become a victim of an act of aggression or an object of a threat of aggression in which nuclear weapons are used". Both seems to not happen as stipulated. Edit: I didn't read properly, 4 obviously didn't happen, my bad.
- floxy 1y agoThe actual memorandum is shorter than the Wikipedia article about it. The English-language portion is literally only three pages of double spaced text. https://treaties.un.org/doc/Publication/UNTS/Volume%203007/Part/volume-3007-I-52241.pdf https://treaties.un.org/doc/Publication/UNTS/Volume%203007/P...
- Fraterkes 1y agoI guess you could argue the US is kinda violating 3, since I think the Trump administration tried to ask for future financial reparations in exchange for support during the war. But 4? This isn't a nuclear conflict yet right?
- wat10000 1y agoI don't think 3 has happened. 4 definitely has not happened. Did you miss the last 4 words you quoted?
- adolph 1y agoGladly not this condition: "in which nuclear weapons are used"
- blibble 1y agothe US trying to coerce Ukraine into surrendering territory, and then having to pay the US to do it is a violation of their sovereignty
- wat10000 1y agoWhat's the threat? "Do this or we'll stop helping you" is not a violation of sovereignty, distasteful though it may be in this case.
- blibble 1y agoArticle 3 of the Budapest memorandum[1]: > 3. The United States of America, the Russian Federation, and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, reaffirm their commitment to Ukraine, in accordance with the principles of the CSCE Final Act, to refrain from economic coercion designed to subordinate to their own interest the exercise by the Republic of Belarus of the rights inherent in its sovereignty and thus to secure advantages of any kind. the US regime is attempting to do this [1]: https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Memorandum_on_Security_Assurances_in_connection_with_the_Republic_of_Belarus%27_accession_to_the_Treaty_on_the_Non-Proliferation_of_Nuclear_Weapons https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Memorandum_on_Security_Assura...
- timeon 1y agoMinerals deal that US pushed for was already against this.
- lostlogin 1y agoThat’s a hell of reply, and shame on the US. I don’t know this. Thank you.
- wat10000 1y agoI don't see how this qualifies. Being given weapons isn't part of sovereignty, and putting conditions on the continued flow of weapons isn't a violation of it. Economic coercion attempting to violate sovereignty would be something like the threatened (actual?) tariffs on Brazil for imprisoning Bolsonaro.
- selivanovp 1y ago[flagged]