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Neither was genocide, neither in outcome nor in intention. You could argue about "mass killing" or some such. Dresden firebombings did not attempted to elimin
by watwut 1y ago
Neither was genocide, neither in outcome nor in intention.
You could argue about "mass killing" or some such. Dresden firebombings did not attempted to eliminate German nation as such. It does not matter how actual nazi try to frame it as similar to holocaust, it was not nearly close.
And same goes for Hiroshima. It was not an attempt to eliminate Japanese people out of existence.
- breppp 1y agoyes, that is my point. Israeli bombings of Gaza were far more precise and less directed at a civilian population also the population was warned to evacuate in advance, nothing that the germans or japanese had the benefit of
- watwut 1y ago> Israeli bombings of Gaza were far more precise and less directed at a civilian population They were literally intentionally directed at civilian population. With special focus on healthcare workers. The attempt to starve them was intentional too. There was even open rhetoric about that.
- breppp 1y ago> They were literally intentionally directed at civilian population. With special focus on healthcare workers no, they were directed at the militant organizations in Gaza while the civilian population was warned to evacuate in advance. the only thing you can base this on is the fact hamas intentionally does not publish its dead, all of the casualties are "civilians", and Hamas was caught either converting dead militants to "journalists" and such or completely inflating its statistics such as the 500 false dead in the hospital "attack". if you compare this to a similar contemporary war with reliable statistics like the war against hezbollah, you can see Israel was clearly able and successful in targeting militants. regarding "starvation" even according to unreliable Hamas statistics these are minuscule, while if you will look at instagram there was actually a restaurant and food blogging scene in gaza throughout the war which is very inconsistent with mass famine
- immibis 1y agoCan you explain what happened to Hind Rajab? She was the five year old girl who was the only survivor of a missile attack and managed to call emergency services, and so humanitarians called up Israel and agreed to clear a specific path where they wouldn't be shot so they could save the little girl, and they drove a van with a big red cross painted on top on that exact route, and when they got to the little girl and got out of the ambulance, they were all murdered by a precisely targeted missile aimed at the precise coordinates they gave to Israel, set for the precise time when the ambulance would get there, and there was nobody else around who could be a target since they all died in the first missile attack that only the little girl survived? Can you explain how that is not intentional targeting of civilians and medical personnel? I suppose you'll just say it didn't happen, but if it did, the medics were Hamas.
- breppp 1y agoI don't know, people are very persistent about this specific incidence. If I understand correctly this is a family that drove around tanks and were shot as something that unfortunately happens around live active war zones. Your depiction of "precise aerial bombing" is wrong Let's say for the sake of argument the tank crew did not shoot due to fog of war but did out of malice, what would that prove except a single criminal tank crew? and no, I don't think Occam's razor points at that
- immibis 1y agoThey were hit by a precision guided missile not a tank. Because it was precision guided, it hit exactly where it was aimed. Which happened to be the exact coordinates Israel was told there would be medics saving a little girl.
- breppp 1y agoYou should read the story again, there is only a mention of a tank, so I think you are wrong
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- netsharc 1y agohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-ta9To14yw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-ta9To14yw