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What a lot of the pro-Brexit crowd finally admitted is that Brexit was always going to be a bitter pill to swallow and they knew it. Conveniently none of them

What a lot of the pro-Brexit crowd finally admitted is that Brexit was always going to be a bitter pill to swallow and they knew it. Conveniently none of them wanted to say that in the lead up to the vote. 5 years ago when they began admitting this, they claimed it was going to be a 10 year process before the "benefits" of Brexit can be felt. Here we are. I guess Brexit benefits will be like Fusion Energy or Full-Self-Driving; always a few years into the future.

dlahoda 11mo ago
let meet here and discuss status of eu newfascism in 5 years. uk will not be part of it.
- gpderetta 11mo ago
  indeed, with Mr Brexit on track to become next PM, UK will have its own brand of it.
- pjc50 11mo ago
  No, the UK will have its own indigenous fascism with a little Union Jack printed on it.
- retsibsi 11mo ago
  > eu newfascism What do you mean by this, concretely? Or in other words, if we check back in 5 years, what would cause you to say 'yeah I was wrong, eu newfascism {doesn't exist || hasn't progressed as badly as I expected}'? edit: to the downvoters, what do you object to here?? I'm trying to pin down the meaning of the parent comment, because without some kind of definition, a phrase like 'eu newfascism' is all heat and no light. My 'in other words...' framing was not based on the assumption that the parent commenter will be proven wrong; I'm just asking 'what would it take to falsify this?'
- blipvert 11mo ago
  Ahem, in 5 years Nigel Farage will have persuaded the idiots to willingly up their human rights, as enshrined in the ECHR. Churchill’s great achievement to prevent the horrors of the Nazi regime happening again. Let’s see how that work out.
  - pjc50 11mo ago
    But the British public, or at least the flag-waving hotel-arson subset, really want to separate families and send people to countries where they face significant risk of torture or death.

dlahoda 11mo ago

let meet here and discuss status of eu newfascism in 5 years. uk will not be part of it.

gpderetta 11mo ago
indeed, with Mr Brexit on track to become next PM, UK will have its own brand of it.
pjc50 11mo ago
No, the UK will have its own indigenous fascism with a little Union Jack printed on it.
retsibsi 11mo ago
> eu newfascism What do you mean by this, concretely? Or in other words, if we check back in 5 years, what would cause you to say 'yeah I was wrong, eu newfascism {doesn't exist || hasn't progressed as badly as I expected}'? edit: to the downvoters, what do you object to here?? I'm trying to pin down the meaning of the parent comment, because without some kind of definition, a phrase like 'eu newfascism' is all heat and no light. My 'in other words...' framing was not based on the assumption that the parent commenter will be proven wrong; I'm just asking 'what would it take to falsify this?'
blipvert 11mo ago
Ahem, in 5 years Nigel Farage will have persuaded the idiots to willingly up their human rights, as enshrined in the ECHR. Churchill’s great achievement to prevent the horrors of the Nazi regime happening again. Let’s see how that work out.
- pjc50 11mo ago
  But the British public, or at least the flag-waving hotel-arson subset, really want to separate families and send people to countries where they face significant risk of torture or death.