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TLDR: he's a member of the ICC. Issues warrants against Israeli political leaders. Neither Israel nor the USA (nor China, Russia, India) are parties to the inte

TLDR: he's a member of the ICC. Issues warrants against Israeli political leaders. Neither Israel nor the USA (nor China, Russia, India) are parties to the international conventions that formed the ICC. He's being sanctioned as a result by the USA, which flowed down to US companies who must follow US law.

317070 11mo ago
The article continues that he asks for the EU to activate an existing blocking regulation (Regulation (EC) No 2271/96), which prevents third countries like the USA from enforcing sanctions in the EU. Activating it would make American companies following US sanction in Europe liable for damages. I think that is the most important point in the article.
7952 11mo ago
The ICC could be considered to have jurisdiction over Gaza though. Although obviously that is debatable.
- zidad 11mo ago
  It is not debatable. Palestine is a recognized member so according to the law they have jurisdiction. If these laws have any usefulness if no one will follow it is debatable though.
  - dragonwriter 11mo ago
    Since the territorial boundaries of the State of Palestine are, too say the least, disputed, the territorial boundaries of ICC jurisdiction derived from its jurisdiction over acts on the territory of a state party where the state party in question is the State of Palestine is actually a tricky question.
  - thenaturalist 11mo ago
    Being confident doesn't equal being right. I'm aghast as to what people seem to think they have authority on simply because they're using the internet. There is a real world out there and it is quite different from online echo chambers, to say the least.
mongol 11mo ago
Palestine is party to it and Gaza is part of Palestine
- HappyPanacea 11mo ago
  And yet Palestine didn't arrest Yahya Sinwar with accordance to ICC arrest warrant for “extermination, murder, taking of hostages, rape and sexual assault in detention”. De jure and De facto are very different things.
vfclists 11mo ago
If the sanctioned Israeli politicians and military commanders think those warrants are baseless, why don't they appear before the courts to defend themselves? This isn't really about the ICC judges. It is about the failure of the major Western countries who are part of the ICC to come to the defence of the judges who they have appointed to make those decisions, and the control Israeli politicians exercise over the White House, ie the US President himself. Americans don't seem to understand how the moral character of their politicians and their political system is relentlessly degraded by the so called Israel lobby, or they don't care, or have resigned themselves to it. Sanctions of those kind or usually applied to corporate entities, state entitities or militant political groups aka "proscribed terrorist organizations". They are not intended to applied to individuals carrying out their legitimate duties in organizations approved or even created by America's own allies under principles America subscribes to, even if they are reluctant to submit themselves to those organizations. And yet on account of Israel, the US applies these sanctions to judges carrying out the duties lawfully, and somehow they don't see how whimsical, capricious, petty and infantile such decisions are and the poor light they present the US in.
- flag_fagger 11mo ago
  > Americans don't seem to understand how the moral character of their politicians and their political system is relentlessly degraded by the so called Israel lobby, or they don't care, or have resigned themselves to it. I mean, it’s causing a small rift in the GOP. Time will tell if that escalates any though. I stand firm in my believe that nothing ever happens though.
  - anon84873628 11mo ago
    It is also causing a rift between "Leftists" who distinguish themselves from "Liberals" i.e. Democrats. Apparently there are many who didn't vote for Harris because she did not sufficiently distance from Israel and condemn the genocide.
    - flag_fagger 11mo ago
      Interestingly in both cases, it seems to be an age divide at least somewhat.
foogazi 11mo ago
> He's being sanctioned as a result by the USA As a result of what ? What’s the trigger cause of the US sanctions ? ICC can’t issue warrants against non ICC countries?
- prasadjoglekar 11mo ago
  Of course they can. Good luck trying to serve and execute that warrant though. And non ICC countries are squarely within their rights to retailiate. Most minor former colonies of the EU countries can't, but the US, China, Russia can.
- usea 11mo ago
  Retribution for acting out of line with those who have this sanction power.
- xmcqdpt2 11mo ago
  As a result of Executive Order 14203, titled “Imposing Sanctions on the International Criminal Court” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_14203 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_14203

317070 11mo ago

The article continues that he asks for the EU to activate an existing blocking regulation (Regulation (EC) No 2271/96), which prevents third countries like the USA from enforcing sanctions in the EU. Activating it would make American companies following US sanction in Europe liable for damages. I think that is the most important point in the article.

7952 11mo ago

The ICC could be considered to have jurisdiction over Gaza though. Although obviously that is debatable.

zidad 11mo ago
It is not debatable. Palestine is a recognized member so according to the law they have jurisdiction. If these laws have any usefulness if no one will follow it is debatable though.
- dragonwriter 11mo ago
  Since the territorial boundaries of the State of Palestine are, too say the least, disputed, the territorial boundaries of ICC jurisdiction derived from its jurisdiction over acts on the territory of a state party where the state party in question is the State of Palestine is actually a tricky question.
- thenaturalist 11mo ago
  Being confident doesn't equal being right. I'm aghast as to what people seem to think they have authority on simply because they're using the internet. There is a real world out there and it is quite different from online echo chambers, to say the least.

mongol 11mo ago

Palestine is party to it and Gaza is part of Palestine

HappyPanacea 11mo ago
And yet Palestine didn't arrest Yahya Sinwar with accordance to ICC arrest warrant for “extermination, murder, taking of hostages, rape and sexual assault in detention”. De jure and De facto are very different things.

vfclists 11mo ago

If the sanctioned Israeli politicians and military commanders think those warrants are baseless, why don't they appear before the courts to defend themselves? This isn't really about the ICC judges. It is about the failure of the major Western countries who are part of the ICC to come to the defence of the judges who they have appointed to make those decisions, and the control Israeli politicians exercise over the White House, ie the US President himself. Americans don't seem to understand how the moral character of their politicians and their political system is relentlessly degraded by the so called Israel lobby, or they don't care, or have resigned themselves to it. Sanctions of those kind or usually applied to corporate entities, state entitities or militant political groups aka "proscribed terrorist organizations". They are not intended to applied to individuals carrying out their legitimate duties in organizations approved or even created by America's own allies under principles America subscribes to, even if they are reluctant to submit themselves to those organizations. And yet on account of Israel, the US applies these sanctions to judges carrying out the duties lawfully, and somehow they don't see how whimsical, capricious, petty and infantile such decisions are and the poor light they present the US in.

flag_fagger 11mo ago
> Americans don't seem to understand how the moral character of their politicians and their political system is relentlessly degraded by the so called Israel lobby, or they don't care, or have resigned themselves to it. I mean, it’s causing a small rift in the GOP. Time will tell if that escalates any though. I stand firm in my believe that nothing ever happens though.
- anon84873628 11mo ago
  It is also causing a rift between "Leftists" who distinguish themselves from "Liberals" i.e. Democrats. Apparently there are many who didn't vote for Harris because she did not sufficiently distance from Israel and condemn the genocide.
  - flag_fagger 11mo ago
    Interestingly in both cases, it seems to be an age divide at least somewhat.

foogazi 11mo ago

> He's being sanctioned as a result by the USA As a result of what ? What’s the trigger cause of the US sanctions ? ICC can’t issue warrants against non ICC countries?

prasadjoglekar 11mo ago
Of course they can. Good luck trying to serve and execute that warrant though. And non ICC countries are squarely within their rights to retailiate. Most minor former colonies of the EU countries can't, but the US, China, Russia can.
usea 11mo ago
Retribution for acting out of line with those who have this sanction power.
xmcqdpt2 11mo ago
As a result of Executive Order 14203, titled “Imposing Sanctions on the International Criminal Court” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_14203 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_14203