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Increasingly phones are being obsoleted by software and not the hardware which is still technically capable of running n+7 yearly OS. 10 years would be a good t

Increasingly phones are being obsoleted by software and not the hardware which is still technically capable of running n+7 yearly OS. 10 years would be a good target for software support.

buran77 11mo ago
Manufacturers will look to price the OS support into the product. Customers will see an overpriced phone because it has ten years of support or a cheaper one with five years support and will think "I'd rather buy a new one in five years, I need a battery replacement anyway". I'd be very curious to see how the market responds to this, but I suspect manufacturers will set prices in such a way as to lead the customer towards a predetermined choice.
- joshstrange 11mo ago
  Reminds me of college where a MBP was $1k but a bargain bin windows laptop was $300-400. I knew many people who scoffed at the price of a MBP and then proceeded to buy 2-4 new laptops over the course of 4 years due to their laptops (sometimes literally) falling apart or otherwise breaking down. It was lost on them that they ended up paying close to or more for their laptops while having a subpar experience. To be fair, a nicer, more expensive, more reliable windows laptop would also have been an option.
  - adithyassekhar 11mo ago
    Didn't those people also get much newer hardware each time they upgraded? People who chose the expensive one will be dealing with the sunk cost fallacy.
- throwaway48476 11mo ago
  That already happened. Phones used to be $600. Now it's 1k+.
concinds 11mo ago
Why would anyone want that? If Apple pushed out iOS 26 to the iPhone 6 (or even 8), it would look like a slideshow and everyone would scream "planned obsolescence". As opposed to now where it still works fine on iOS 15 or whatever. Though I guess if they did like Google and updated a lot of OS components through the App Store (which I agree they should) then you could have security updates for most stuff without major UI updates that slow you down, that would be cool.
- throwaway48476 11mo ago
  I would consider a lack of liquid glass to be a positive.

Increasingly phones are being obsoleted by software and not the hardware which is still technically capable of running n+7 yearly OS. 10 years would be a good target for software support.

buran77 11mo ago

Manufacturers will look to price the OS support into the product. Customers will see an overpriced phone because it has ten years of support or a cheaper one with five years support and will think "I'd rather buy a new one in five years, I need a battery replacement anyway". I'd be very curious to see how the market responds to this, but I suspect manufacturers will set prices in such a way as to lead the customer towards a predetermined choice.

joshstrange 11mo ago
Reminds me of college where a MBP was $1k but a bargain bin windows laptop was $300-400. I knew many people who scoffed at the price of a MBP and then proceeded to buy 2-4 new laptops over the course of 4 years due to their laptops (sometimes literally) falling apart or otherwise breaking down. It was lost on them that they ended up paying close to or more for their laptops while having a subpar experience. To be fair, a nicer, more expensive, more reliable windows laptop would also have been an option.
- adithyassekhar 11mo ago
  Didn't those people also get much newer hardware each time they upgraded? People who chose the expensive one will be dealing with the sunk cost fallacy.
throwaway48476 11mo ago
That already happened. Phones used to be $600. Now it's 1k+.

concinds 11mo ago

Why would anyone want that? If Apple pushed out iOS 26 to the iPhone 6 (or even 8), it would look like a slideshow and everyone would scream "planned obsolescence". As opposed to now where it still works fine on iOS 15 or whatever. Though I guess if they did like Google and updated a lot of OS components through the App Store (which I agree they should) then you could have security updates for most stuff without major UI updates that slow you down, that would be cool.

throwaway48476 11mo ago
I would consider a lack of liquid glass to be a positive.