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I Tested the M5 iPad Pro's Neural-Accelerated AI, and the Hype Is Real

10 points by raw_anon_1111 1y ago

bigyabai 1y ago
Someday, I'd like to meet the (presumably) singular Apple employee that demands a more powerful iPad get made every year. What is this guy doing, rizzing up Qwen while he plays Genshin Impact? The value prop for this kind of device eludes me. Will be nice once the GPU tech reaches the Mac lineup, at least.
- raw_anon_1111 1y ago
  What else would you expect Appld to do? Keep making last years chips for no reason? They use the same processors in Macs as they do iPads except for the base iPad and the mini. Besides there are video, graphic and sound editing apps that take advantage of the processor. And what do you mean when it reaches Mac? There are already M5 Macs
  - izacus 1y ago
    Why did "Improve iOS software" not come to your mind when you decided to jump to big corps defense here?
    - raw_anon_1111 1y ago
      Im the last person to defend Apple or Tim Cook in the age of Trump. But with iPad OS 26 with real windows and it finally being able to run apps in the background for an extended period of time, I can do any none development related task on the iPad without frustration.
      - bigyabai 1y ago
        Finally is fucking right - the iPad has been manufactured for fifteen years ignoring these oversights and only now does Apple admit they're necessary. I'd go buy an iPad tonight if Apple pushed an update that gave the iPad native Vulkan drivers. Then I could use the hardware to play real non-gatcha video games, accelerate ordinary inference servers or, gasp, develop complex software for ordinary non-Apple platforms. Alas, we've got to wait another 15 years before Apple gives up milking Monument Valley and microtransaction slop to consider our needs again. It's so exhausting. I'm glad I left Apple's ecosystem instead of waiting for the iPad to consider my needs.
        raw_anon_1111 1y ago
        I have an iPad Air 3rd generation with an A12 processor and 3GB of RAM from 2019. It runs iOS 26 fine. But it ain’t a great experience. If anything they should have added all of the capabilities they have now shortly after they started putting M series chips in them. The issue with non micro transaction games is that mobile users are cheap. Every time that a company tries to release a non slimy app with a one time purchase price of even $10, no one buys them.
        bigyabai 1y ago
        The issue is that the iPad doesn't run Proton. I own several mobile devices that run non-microtransaction games that are very successful on their respective stores. The failure of mobile games on iOS feels less like the user's fault and more like Apple deliberately promoting exploitative products because they're artificially segregated from healthy software competition.
        raw_anon_1111 1y ago
        Android has the same issue with the added disadvantage that Android users are even less willing to spend money. And you owning devices that run Protonnis a minor anecdote that goes against worldwide market trends. And what is your definition of “successful” as far as revenue compared to the App Store or even the much less successful Play Store?
- fragmede 1y ago
  if we’re going to fantasize about Apple employees, the one I heard is that there are iPads running macOS, but it turns out they’re not very good at it for some reason, and that’s why they haven’t released it.
spacedcowboy 1y ago
Reading the headline, I wasn’t sure if Apple had produced hardware that met the guys expectations, or were overstating their performance. Given that it seems to be the former (at least in the tests run), perhaps “the hyped performance turned out to be real” might be less ambiguous… Oh, and well done Apple, niwbget the M5 into Macs where this might be more useful…
- treetalker 1y ago
  > Oh, and well done Apple, niwbget the M5 into Macs where this might be more useful… The M5 is in Macs already. I saw M5 MacBook Pros at Costco a couple weeks ago.
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10 points by raw_anon_1111 1y ago

Someday, I'd like to meet the (presumably) singular Apple employee that demands a more powerful iPad get made every year. What is this guy doing, rizzing up Qwen while he plays Genshin Impact? The value prop for this kind of device eludes me. Will be nice once the GPU tech reaches the Mac lineup, at least.

raw_anon_1111 1y ago
What else would you expect Appld to do? Keep making last years chips for no reason? They use the same processors in Macs as they do iPads except for the base iPad and the mini. Besides there are video, graphic and sound editing apps that take advantage of the processor. And what do you mean when it reaches Mac? There are already M5 Macs
- izacus 1y ago
  Why did "Improve iOS software" not come to your mind when you decided to jump to big corps defense here?
  - raw_anon_1111 1y ago
    Im the last person to defend Apple or Tim Cook in the age of Trump. But with iPad OS 26 with real windows and it finally being able to run apps in the background for an extended period of time, I can do any none development related task on the iPad without frustration.
    - bigyabai 1y ago
      Finally is fucking right - the iPad has been manufactured for fifteen years ignoring these oversights and only now does Apple admit they're necessary. I'd go buy an iPad tonight if Apple pushed an update that gave the iPad native Vulkan drivers. Then I could use the hardware to play real non-gatcha video games, accelerate ordinary inference servers or, gasp, develop complex software for ordinary non-Apple platforms. Alas, we've got to wait another 15 years before Apple gives up milking Monument Valley and microtransaction slop to consider our needs again. It's so exhausting. I'm glad I left Apple's ecosystem instead of waiting for the iPad to consider my needs.
      - raw_anon_1111 1y ago
        I have an iPad Air 3rd generation with an A12 processor and 3GB of RAM from 2019. It runs iOS 26 fine. But it ain’t a great experience. If anything they should have added all of the capabilities they have now shortly after they started putting M series chips in them. The issue with non micro transaction games is that mobile users are cheap. Every time that a company tries to release a non slimy app with a one time purchase price of even $10, no one buys them.
        bigyabai 1y ago
        The issue is that the iPad doesn't run Proton. I own several mobile devices that run non-microtransaction games that are very successful on their respective stores. The failure of mobile games on iOS feels less like the user's fault and more like Apple deliberately promoting exploitative products because they're artificially segregated from healthy software competition.
        raw_anon_1111 1y ago
        Android has the same issue with the added disadvantage that Android users are even less willing to spend money. And you owning devices that run Protonnis a minor anecdote that goes against worldwide market trends. And what is your definition of “successful” as far as revenue compared to the App Store or even the much less successful Play Store?
fragmede 1y ago
if we’re going to fantasize about Apple employees, the one I heard is that there are iPads running macOS, but it turns out they’re not very good at it for some reason, and that’s why they haven’t released it.

spacedcowboy 1y ago

Reading the headline, I wasn’t sure if Apple had produced hardware that met the guys expectations, or were overstating their performance. Given that it seems to be the former (at least in the tests run), perhaps “the hyped performance turned out to be real” might be less ambiguous… Oh, and well done Apple, niwbget the M5 into Macs where this might be more useful…

treetalker 1y ago
> Oh, and well done Apple, niwbget the M5 into Macs where this might be more useful… The M5 is in Macs already. I saw M5 MacBook Pros at Costco a couple weeks ago.

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