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Iryna Zarutska's life was ruined. When liberals downplay events like these, it pushes people to the other side, even if the other side has issues. It's not hate

by nxor 11mo ago

Iryna Zarutska's life was ruined. When liberals downplay events like these, it pushes people to the other side, even if the other side has issues. It's not hateful to want less crime.

bigyabai 11mo ago
Sure, and Charlie Kirk was murdered by a US citizen. It's okay for us to correlate a rising trend in political violence with something other than immigration. It's not as pleasant or vindictive as saying "the nonwhites did it" but it certainly seems to hold true when the political pot boils over. It's rarely the immigrants taking potshots at the president or storming the capitol, but instead deluded ideologues who are naturalized Americans.
- russellbeattie 11mo ago
  You mean "natural" citizens. Naturalized is when one is not a citizen, but is made one. On that note, the administration has started the process of de-naturalizing immigrants, which is something I'd never thought I'd see except in extreme cases.
javascriptfan69 11mo ago
Are you sure it's liberals downplaying these events? Or is it conservatives amplifying these events because they're politically useful? I'm pretty sure everybody has condemned Zarutska's death. Remember that Joe Biden had a border bill that Donald Trump told republicans to kill because Trump wanted to keep the border as a election issue.
- nxor 11mo ago
  Everybody hasn't. That isn't true.
unethical_ban 11mo ago
>When liberals downplay events like these For casual observers, this is where the fallacy is. I have to wonder what your media diet is, that of all the things to complain about, a false statement about the murder of a woman to justify watching the destruction of the country is the one a person lands on. Our justice system is being ripped apart. Allies don't trust us militarily or economically. The president is pardoning people openly for money. His family is taking in hundreds of millions of dollars in cryptocurrency from anonymous sources. He shrugged off the murder of a Washington Post journalist while standing next to his murderer and called a journalist "insubordinate" for asking the question.
- nxor 11mo ago
  I read American and European news every day. I live in a relatively poor large American city. I continue to believe both sides show similar corruptness.
QuadmasterXLII 11mo ago
For context, I am replying to a 3 karma account. We are being fucked with.
- unethical_ban 11mo ago
  The barrier on HN is higher, but it's happening. Same on reddit. I'm my local sub, any time a political topic comes up, a horde of low karma, low activity accounts come online to cheer the administration or ask fake "concern troll" questions. The Internet of today is not the Internet of 2005.
  - nxor 11mo ago
    I'm not allowed to disagree with people? What is wrong with you? And yeah, I use this site rarely. I also work and program and do many other things in my free time.
- nxor 11mo ago
  That means I say things people disagree with. I am much like the rest of users here: live in a major city, STEM job, and so on.

by nxor 11mo ago

Iryna Zarutska's life was ruined. When liberals downplay events like these, it pushes people to the other side, even if the other side has issues. It's not hateful to want less crime.

bigyabai 11mo ago

Sure, and Charlie Kirk was murdered by a US citizen. It's okay for us to correlate a rising trend in political violence with something other than immigration. It's not as pleasant or vindictive as saying "the nonwhites did it" but it certainly seems to hold true when the political pot boils over. It's rarely the immigrants taking potshots at the president or storming the capitol, but instead deluded ideologues who are naturalized Americans.

russellbeattie 11mo ago
You mean "natural" citizens. Naturalized is when one is not a citizen, but is made one. On that note, the administration has started the process of de-naturalizing immigrants, which is something I'd never thought I'd see except in extreme cases.

javascriptfan69 11mo ago

Are you sure it's liberals downplaying these events? Or is it conservatives amplifying these events because they're politically useful? I'm pretty sure everybody has condemned Zarutska's death. Remember that Joe Biden had a border bill that Donald Trump told republicans to kill because Trump wanted to keep the border as a election issue.

nxor 11mo ago
Everybody hasn't. That isn't true.

unethical_ban 11mo ago

>When liberals downplay events like these For casual observers, this is where the fallacy is. I have to wonder what your media diet is, that of all the things to complain about, a false statement about the murder of a woman to justify watching the destruction of the country is the one a person lands on. Our justice system is being ripped apart. Allies don't trust us militarily or economically. The president is pardoning people openly for money. His family is taking in hundreds of millions of dollars in cryptocurrency from anonymous sources. He shrugged off the murder of a Washington Post journalist while standing next to his murderer and called a journalist "insubordinate" for asking the question.

nxor 11mo ago
I read American and European news every day. I live in a relatively poor large American city. I continue to believe both sides show similar corruptness.

QuadmasterXLII 11mo ago

For context, I am replying to a 3 karma account. We are being fucked with.

unethical_ban 11mo ago
The barrier on HN is higher, but it's happening. Same on reddit. I'm my local sub, any time a political topic comes up, a horde of low karma, low activity accounts come online to cheer the administration or ask fake "concern troll" questions. The Internet of today is not the Internet of 2005.
- nxor 11mo ago
  I'm not allowed to disagree with people? What is wrong with you? And yeah, I use this site rarely. I also work and program and do many other things in my free time.
nxor 11mo ago
That means I say things people disagree with. I am much like the rest of users here: live in a major city, STEM job, and so on.