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Someday they'll stop changing the context menu if I accidentaly select something. (Some UX designer or developer thought it was a great idea to remove the back

by eitland 11mo ago

Someday they'll stop changing the context menu if I accidentaly select something. (Some UX designer or developer thought it was a great idea to remove the back and forward buttons from the context menu if text is selected so now I have two different context menus and one of them lack the thing I am looking for most of the time which is the back button. Or fixing the tabstrip API (someone has decided we users are now too stupid to use only tree style tabs and for our own good we must be prevented from hiding the original tab bar).

Lammy 11mo ago
> so now I have two different context menus and one of them lack the thing I am looking for most of the time This annoys me constantly trying to get Firefox to show the “Take Screenshot” context-menu item. Yes I know about Control+Shift+S, but I'm still annoyed when my hand is already on the mouse and it won't do what I want. Although perhaps I should stop using that feature since I just while writing this comment realized how much it spies on you: https://probes.telemetry.mozilla.org/?search=screenshots https://probes.telemetry.mozilla.org/?search=screenshots
- ndriscoll 11mo ago
  That domain is blocked on my network. What kind of information is it collecting?
  - Lammy 11mo ago
    Events: screenshots.canceled#canceled screenshots.copy#copy screenshots.download#download screenshots.failed#failed screenshots.selected#selected screenshots.started#started Counters: screenshots.copy screenshots.custom screenshots.download screenshots.element screenshots.full_page screenshots.upload screenshots.visible inb4 mention of “Send technical and interaction data to Mozilla” setting, like it's okay for software to be privacy-adversarial by default lol
    - wpm 11mo ago
      Maybe I'm just too stupid, but goddamn what could the possible value in knowing if someone cancelled a screenshot or something. Like, *who cares*
      - eitland 11mo ago
        Are you serious? It is rather obvious why a software designer want to know how a piece of software is used and also to know it over time. If number of cancelled screenshots increases (or decreases) compared to general usage of the screenshot feature it might give an early indication that a recent change was bad (or good). As long as it only logs counters like this and not who I am or any of my data or who I am I actually want them to log it and if it was disabled and there was an easy way to enable it I would do it. The problem is that they have: - a history of not being completely honest (unlike certain other actors who have a history of being actively dishonest) - no easy way for people to choose what they send - and a number of other problems, for example what I suspect is that they ignore actual users seemingly in favour of what their ux designers and developers think a user should want. (And that seems to always be dumbing down, "simplifying" and making it more like Chrome.)
        eviks 11mo ago
        This is mostly useless information since it has no context of what's going on, so can't really separate noise from signal. Much fewer user complains about cancellations due to various issues is more valuable.
eviks 11mo ago
That's why they should copy Vivaldi and allow custom context menus where you can add/remove/rename. Customization is how you rectify those centralized UI mistakes

by eitland 11mo ago

Lammy 11mo ago

> so now I have two different context menus and one of them lack the thing I am looking for most of the time This annoys me constantly trying to get Firefox to show the “Take Screenshot” context-menu item. Yes I know about Control+Shift+S, but I'm still annoyed when my hand is already on the mouse and it won't do what I want. Although perhaps I should stop using that feature since I just while writing this comment realized how much it spies on you: https://probes.telemetry.mozilla.org/?search=screenshots https://probes.telemetry.mozilla.org/?search=screenshots

ndriscoll 11mo ago
That domain is blocked on my network. What kind of information is it collecting?
- Lammy 11mo ago
  Events: screenshots.canceled#canceled screenshots.copy#copy screenshots.download#download screenshots.failed#failed screenshots.selected#selected screenshots.started#started Counters: screenshots.copy screenshots.custom screenshots.download screenshots.element screenshots.full_page screenshots.upload screenshots.visible inb4 mention of “Send technical and interaction data to Mozilla” setting, like it's okay for software to be privacy-adversarial by default lol
  - wpm 11mo ago
    Maybe I'm just too stupid, but goddamn what could the possible value in knowing if someone cancelled a screenshot or something. Like, *who cares*
    - eitland 11mo ago
      Are you serious? It is rather obvious why a software designer want to know how a piece of software is used and also to know it over time. If number of cancelled screenshots increases (or decreases) compared to general usage of the screenshot feature it might give an early indication that a recent change was bad (or good). As long as it only logs counters like this and not who I am or any of my data or who I am I actually want them to log it and if it was disabled and there was an easy way to enable it I would do it. The problem is that they have: - a history of not being completely honest (unlike certain other actors who have a history of being actively dishonest) - no easy way for people to choose what they send - and a number of other problems, for example what I suspect is that they ignore actual users seemingly in favour of what their ux designers and developers think a user should want. (And that seems to always be dumbing down, "simplifying" and making it more like Chrome.)
      - eviks 11mo ago
        This is mostly useless information since it has no context of what's going on, so can't really separate noise from signal. Much fewer user complains about cancellations due to various issues is more valuable.

eviks 11mo ago

That's why they should copy Vivaldi and allow custom context menus where you can add/remove/rename. Customization is how you rectify those centralized UI mistakes