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In my jurisdiction I once had a roommate who stole from me. I was the homeowner, and he was renting from me. I was able to kick him out without notice. If

In my jurisdiction I once had a roommate who stole from me. I was the homeowner, and he was renting from me. I was able to kick him out without notice. If he had his own separate bathroom & kitchen I wouldn't have been able to due to those tenant protection laws you mention. But because we were in a shared space those laws didn't apply. The laws for SRO should be the same as shared living, but I imagine it varies greatly.

Aurornis 1y ago
> I was able to kick him out without notice. Do you mean have him forcibly removed by the police? Or just terminate his rental agreement? Depending on the location, there’s a difference between being able to tell someone their contract is terminated and they have to leave versus actually having legal standing to have them removed. The tenants who abuse the laws know that they can just refuse to leave and nothing can be done for so many days. In the last case I heard of, the tenant knew this and waited until a day or two before the clock ran out to actually leave, despite being declared unwelcome and asked to leave many weeks prior.
- steveBK123 1y ago
  There are incredible stories of serial abusers of the system - https://www.thecut.com/article/nanny-drama-hillsdale-carano-nordenstrom-molnar.html https://www.thecut.com/article/nanny-drama-hillsdale-carano-...
- bryanlarsen 1y ago
  It sounds like I had the option. I had called the cops and talked to them, and she told me that the only option she had at that point was to arrest him and we didn't really have grounds for that at the time. But when she learned we had a shared kitchen she told me the simplest option was to evict him and then if he refused to leave to call them back and they could help enforce the order.
  - Aurornis 1y ago
    > she told me the simplest option was to evict him and then if he refused to leave to call them back and they could help enforce the order. Right, so you didn't have to follow the eviction process. This is a key distinction. If you tell someone they're no longer welcome and they have to move out immediately, you're not technically following the eviction process. If the person had refused to leave, you'd have to follow the eviction process which can require some evidentiary collection, such as being able to prove that the person was notified that they were being evicted on a certain date. In extreme cases (not like your ex-roommate) squatters will go so far to game the system that they only come and go in the middle of the night to avoid being officially served the eviction notice.
    - bryanlarsen 1y ago
      I was told that becase of the shared living situation, it became a safety issue. That my right to safety trumped the roommate's right to live in my house. Of course, the cop may well not had a complete understanding of the law either.

Aurornis 1y ago

> I was able to kick him out without notice. Do you mean have him forcibly removed by the police? Or just terminate his rental agreement? Depending on the location, there’s a difference between being able to tell someone their contract is terminated and they have to leave versus actually having legal standing to have them removed. The tenants who abuse the laws know that they can just refuse to leave and nothing can be done for so many days. In the last case I heard of, the tenant knew this and waited until a day or two before the clock ran out to actually leave, despite being declared unwelcome and asked to leave many weeks prior.

steveBK123 1y ago
There are incredible stories of serial abusers of the system - https://www.thecut.com/article/nanny-drama-hillsdale-carano-nordenstrom-molnar.html https://www.thecut.com/article/nanny-drama-hillsdale-carano-...
bryanlarsen 1y ago
It sounds like I had the option. I had called the cops and talked to them, and she told me that the only option she had at that point was to arrest him and we didn't really have grounds for that at the time. But when she learned we had a shared kitchen she told me the simplest option was to evict him and then if he refused to leave to call them back and they could help enforce the order.
- Aurornis 1y ago
  > she told me the simplest option was to evict him and then if he refused to leave to call them back and they could help enforce the order. Right, so you didn't have to follow the eviction process. This is a key distinction. If you tell someone they're no longer welcome and they have to move out immediately, you're not technically following the eviction process. If the person had refused to leave, you'd have to follow the eviction process which can require some evidentiary collection, such as being able to prove that the person was notified that they were being evicted on a certain date. In extreme cases (not like your ex-roommate) squatters will go so far to game the system that they only come and go in the middle of the night to avoid being officially served the eviction notice.
  - bryanlarsen 1y ago
    I was told that becase of the shared living situation, it became a safety issue. That my right to safety trumped the roommate's right to live in my house. Of course, the cop may well not had a complete understanding of the law either.