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I think php should have stopped at php4 or php5 and maybe just develop a new/sane standard library. And a new language could have been developed , call it hack

I think php should have stopped at php4 or php5 and maybe just develop a new/sane standard library. And a new language could have been developed , call it hack or whatever Facebook tried. Anyway I remember php coding gave me headaches. Tried it again 2 years ago and found out the same kind of issues(outdated /inexistent documentation, different ways to do the same thing that actually didn’t work and stuff like that). Try to connect to sql database using ssl and see what I mean. I see no reason to learn PHP anymore or start up your company using php. We live in a vps/docker age. The advantage of php hosts everywhere has been lost.

hu3 11mo ago
Without specifics it's hard to understand what kind of difficulties you had. But PHP is still so strong because it offers much more than "easy hosting". What I personaly love most is the instant save file->see results feedback loop. There's no perceptible compilation step. Meanwhile my Java project takes a minute to compile. Also the shared-nothing model by default is powerful and rare. Laravel is probably the most well documented frameworks even comparing frameworks from other languages. And symfony, also a PHP framework, is not far from that. When you say "SSL" I can only think your reasoning is based on outdated information since no one calls it SSL anymore. It's TLS for some years now. And I have been connecting to databases using PHP TLS/SSL since version 5. For almost a decade now.