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Your post is very naive. In the UK, some universities are so dependent now on foreign students paying high fees to break even, that it has been widely reported

Your post is very naive. In the UK, some universities are so dependent now on foreign students paying high fees to break even, that it has been widely reported in the media. And in a few EU countries, polytechnics have been upgraded to university status (at least in their English-language names) in order to attract fee-paying students from the developing world. Finnish polytechnics, for example, run whole marketing campaigns in the Indian Subcontinent in order to get people to come and pay those sweet, sweet foreign-student fees.

ecshafer 11mo ago
Are Polytechnics not considered universities in Europe? RPI (Rensalear Polytechnic Institute) or CalPoly (California Polytechnic Institute) for example in the US are just normal universities, usually with more of a technical, engineering focused. But they are essentially the same "level" as a university.
- HeinzStuckeIt 11mo ago
  In Finland, the institutions that now call themselves “Universities of Applied Science” in English for marketing reasons, are still known in Finnish as ammatikorkeakoulu “tertiary professional-training institutions” and this is a rung below actual universities (yliopisto) in terms of both quality of education and social prestige.
- pjc50 11mo ago
  The UK collapsed the poly/uni distinction thirty or so years ago, as it was seen as a source of class discrimination.
  - Enk1du 11mo ago
    > The Further and Higher Education Act 1992 (c. 13) made changes in the funding and administration of further education and higher education [0] It was more about reducing budgets. That Conservative government was not filled with class warriors. Oh, how times have changed. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Further_and_Higher_Education_Act_1992 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Further_and_Higher_Education_A...
  - graemep 11mo ago
    Really? That was the motive? It actually made it a lot worse if anything.
graemep 11mo ago
British universities do the same marketing. Seen it there. The problem in the UK has been ridiculous the expansion of universities. if we shut at least half of them down, reduced some of the others in size, there would be a lot more money for the rest. AI teaching is the opposite of what the best universities do, which is things like small group tutorials on top of face to face lectures.
- j45 11mo ago
  Too many universities and colleges seem to love opening buildings to name them. AI might be a threat because it can't take up as many buildings as students?
  - graemep 11mo ago
    They often get donations in return for naming buildings after people. They can name other things after people instead - organisations with the university.
j45 11mo ago
It's surprising because so many countries have taken billions from international students, mostly from one country, and is now blaming the the students for having parted with their money.

ecshafer 11mo ago

Are Polytechnics not considered universities in Europe? RPI (Rensalear Polytechnic Institute) or CalPoly (California Polytechnic Institute) for example in the US are just normal universities, usually with more of a technical, engineering focused. But they are essentially the same "level" as a university.

HeinzStuckeIt 11mo ago
In Finland, the institutions that now call themselves “Universities of Applied Science” in English for marketing reasons, are still known in Finnish as ammatikorkeakoulu “tertiary professional-training institutions” and this is a rung below actual universities (yliopisto) in terms of both quality of education and social prestige.
pjc50 11mo ago
The UK collapsed the poly/uni distinction thirty or so years ago, as it was seen as a source of class discrimination.
- Enk1du 11mo ago
  > The Further and Higher Education Act 1992 (c. 13) made changes in the funding and administration of further education and higher education [0] It was more about reducing budgets. That Conservative government was not filled with class warriors. Oh, how times have changed. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Further_and_Higher_Education_Act_1992 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Further_and_Higher_Education_A...
- graemep 11mo ago
  Really? That was the motive? It actually made it a lot worse if anything.

graemep 11mo ago

British universities do the same marketing. Seen it there. The problem in the UK has been ridiculous the expansion of universities. if we shut at least half of them down, reduced some of the others in size, there would be a lot more money for the rest. AI teaching is the opposite of what the best universities do, which is things like small group tutorials on top of face to face lectures.

j45 11mo ago
Too many universities and colleges seem to love opening buildings to name them. AI might be a threat because it can't take up as many buildings as students?
- graemep 11mo ago
  They often get donations in return for naming buildings after people. They can name other things after people instead - organisations with the university.

j45 11mo ago

It's surprising because so many countries have taken billions from international students, mostly from one country, and is now blaming the the students for having parted with their money.