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All universities outside of the US Edit: Apparently not. Thanks for the insight, I stand corrected. I really should think twice before posting!

• HeinzStuckeIt 10mo ago
  Your post is very naive. In the UK, some universities are so dependent now on foreign students paying high fees to break even, that it has been widely reported in the media. And in a few EU countries, polytechnics have been upgraded to university status (at least in their English-language names) in order to attract fee-paying students from the developing world. Finnish polytechnics, for example, run whole marketing campaigns in the Indian Subcontinent in order to get people to come and pay those sweet, sweet foreign-student fees.
  • ecshafer 10mo ago
    Are Polytechnics not considered universities in Europe? RPI (Rensalear Polytechnic Institute) or CalPoly (California Polytechnic Institute) for example in the US are just normal universities, usually with more of a technical, engineering focused. But they are essentially the same "level" as a university.
    • HeinzStuckeIt 10mo ago
      In Finland, the institutions that now call themselves “Universities of Applied Science” in English for marketing reasons, are still known in Finnish as ammatikorkeakoulu “tertiary professional-training institutions” and this is a rung below actual universities (yliopisto) in terms of both quality of education and social prestige.
    • pjc50 10mo ago
      The UK collapsed the poly/uni distinction thirty or so years ago, as it was seen as a source of class discrimination.
      • Enk1du 10mo ago
        > The Further and Higher Education Act 1992 (c. 13) made changes in the funding and administration of further education and higher education [0] It was more about reducing budgets. That Conservative government was not filled with class warriors. Oh, how times have changed. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Further_and_Higher_Education_Act_1992 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Further_and_Higher_Education_A...
      • graemep 10mo ago
        Really? That was the motive? It actually made it a lot worse if anything.
  • graemep 10mo ago
    British universities do the same marketing. Seen it there. The problem in the UK has been ridiculous the expansion of universities. if we shut at least half of them down, reduced some of the others in size, there would be a lot more money for the rest. AI teaching is the opposite of what the best universities do, which is things like small group tutorials on top of face to face lectures.
    • j45 10mo ago
      Too many universities and colleges seem to love opening buildings to name them. AI might be a threat because it can't take up as many buildings as students?
      • graemep 10mo ago
        They often get donations in return for naming buildings after people. They can name other things after people instead - organisations with the university.
  • j45 10mo ago
    It's surprising because so many countries have taken billions from international students, mostly from one country, and is now blaming the the students for having parted with their money.
• gos9 10mo ago
  The University mentioned in this article is in England.
• zerkten 10mo ago
  The original article is about a UK university. Cashflow and revenue generation is a very important topic for UK universities. They have copied the approaches of US universities, and in many cases have created overseas campuses when they have some name recognition. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_branch_campus https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_branch_campus for examples.
  • j45 10mo ago
    Interesting link, thanks for sharing!
• danaris 10mo ago
  Plenty of US colleges and universities are primarily about education and/or research, even today. Far from all, to be sure—and some are primarily about connections and the school name (primarily Ivies), rather than any of the above.
  • j45 10mo ago
    None of which exist without making sure the organization isa bout sufficient cashflow from government, students, and industry. I shouldn't say it so simply, it might result in attempts to convolute it to distract from the fact that bureaucracies serve to maintain revenue/income and grow it.
    • danaris 10mo ago
      There's a big difference between "the organization needs to maintain a sufficient cashflow" and "the organization is primarily concerned with its financial status, at the expense of its putative mission".
      • j45 10mo ago
        That sounds about right. The only thing I’d add is there are too many institutions obsessed with growth (new buildings to name and dedicate) which means growing cashflow.
• j45 10mo ago
  Many post secondaries are dependant on international student revenue and income to build all those new buildings to dedicate to the current president.