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Seeing that it fails to portray the current map accurately, by not to separating PRC and ROC (taiwan), makes me question everything about older data

• maratc 11mo ago
  Both PRC and ROC maintain their sovereignty over the whole of mainland + islands, so this depiction is not exactly inaccurate. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_the_Republic_of_China https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_the_Republic_o... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_China https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_China
  • kykat 11mo ago
    Then it should be striped, the same way Crimea is.
    • maratc 11mo ago
      Should Mongolia be striped too? ROC does not officially recognise Mongolia's sovereignty. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:ROC_Administrative_and_Claims.svg https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:ROC_Administrative_a... I'll add that most of the "Internet's supporters of Taiwan independence" not only do not live in Taiwan, they have never even visited there -- if they did, they would know that even most of Taiwan's population consider Taiwan and (mainland) China to be one entity. And mainland China mostly agrees with that -- where they disagree is what is the political entity that should govern this territory.
      • kykat 11mo ago
        Great straw man argument you got there, please tell me more about my life, I'm sure you know all about it
      • kykat 11mo ago
        I'm sure that you can see in the map that there's "free are of the republic of china", which wasn't represented in the map, which was the point I raised originally. I never mentioned taiwan independence, you twist the facts and my word for your political agenda.
      • School-Cotton 11mo ago
        > most of Taiwan's population consider Taiwan and (mainland) China to be one entity I very much doubt this is true — post a source, if you’ve got one
        • maratc 11mo ago
          My experience is a personal one -- a couple of jobs ago I was travelling extensively to Taiwan (on a multi-year ROC visa) and had lots of conversations with people. I can offer a link to ROC constitution (above): > Because the ROC constitution is, at least nominally, the constitution of all China, the amendments avoided any specific reference to the Taiwan area ... Or this passage: > The position of the PRC and the KMT in Taiwan remains that there is only one sovereign entity of China, united and indivisible. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two_Chinas#Current_situation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two_Chinas#Current_situation Or this passage: > Domestically, the major political contention is between the Pan-Blue Coalition, which favors eventual Chinese unification under the ROC and promoting a pan-Chinese identity, ... [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwan Or this passage: > As of the 2008 election of President Ma Ying-jeou, the KMT agreed to the One China principle, but defined it as led by [ROC] rather than [PRC]. [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_unification#Rise_of_the_Democratic_Progressive_Party https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_unification#Rise_of_th... (KMT/Pan-Blue are the biggest party historically and currently, however Pan-Green were a majority recently.) Or this poll result: (2024) Independence as soon as possible 3.8% Maintain status quo, move toward independence 22.4% Maintain status quo, decide at a later date 27.3% Maintain status quo indefinitely 33.6% So about 60% are for doing nothing (either for now or forever), while 26% have expressed their preference for independence. [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwan_independence_movement#Opinion_polls https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwan_independence_movement#O...
          • School-Cotton 11mo ago
            Believing that China and Taiwan should be reunified is not the same as believing that they are, currently, one entity, which is what was originally claimed.
  • kykat 11mo ago
    And if we are talking about the constitution, technically parts of Russia, India, Vietnam, Mongolia are also "claimed" by the ROC. This map should show the areas of actual rule and control (de facto) and don't accept any territory to belong to a state just because they claim sovereignty.
  • School-Cotton 11mo ago
    If you call a tail a leg, how many legs does a dog have? Four — someone claiming something doesn’t make it true.