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I’m thankful that Meta still contributes to open source and shares models like this. I know there’s several reasons to not like the company, but actions like th

by cebert 11mo ago

I’m thankful that Meta still contributes to open source and shares models like this. I know there’s several reasons to not like the company, but actions like this are much appreciated and benefit everyone.

visioninmyblood 11mo ago
Not of fan of the company for the social media but have to appreciate all the open sourcing. none of the other top labs release thier models like meta.
- patrickk 11mo ago
  They're not doing it out of the goodness of their heart, they're deploying a classic strategy known as "Commoditize Your Complement"[1], to ward off threats from OpenAI and Anthropic. It's only a happy accident that the little guy benefits in this instance. Facebook is a deeply scummy company[2] and their stranglehold on online advertising spend (along with Google) allows them to pour enormous funds into side bets like this. [1] https://gwern.net/complement https://gwern.net/complement [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Careless_People https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Careless_People
  - arcanemachiner 11mo ago
    Well, when your incentives happen to align with those of a faceless mega-corporstion, you gotta take what you can get.
    - GCUMstlyHarmls 11mo ago
      You dont have to thank them for it though.
      - throwaway98797 11mo ago
        you don’t, that’s true i prefer to say thank you when someone is doing something good
      - visioninmyblood 11mo ago
        I spend years working on training these models. Inference is always the fruit. The effort going into getting the data is the most time consuming part. I am not a fan of meta from a long time. But open sourcing the weights help move the field in general. So I have to be thankful for that.
  - unsungNovelty 11mo ago
    Not even closely OK with facebook. But none of the other companies do this. And Mark has been open about it. I remember him saying in an interview the same very openly. Something oddly respectable about NOT sugar coating with good PR and marketing. Unlike OpenAI.
  - _giorgio_ 11mo ago
    Among the top 10 tech companies and beyond, they have the most successful open source program. These projects come to my mind: SAM segment anything. PyTorch LLama ... Open source datacenters and server blueprints. the following instead comes from grok.com Meta’s open-source hall of fame (Nov 2025) --------------------- Llama family (2 → 3.3) – 2023-2025 >500k total stars · powers ~80% of models on Hugging Face Single-handedly killed the closed frontier model monopoly --------------------- PyTorch – 2017 85k+ stars · the #1 ML framework in research TensorFlow is basically dead in academia now --------------------- React + React Native – 2013/2015 230k + 120k stars Still the de-facto UI standard for web & mobile --------------------- FAISS – 2017 32k stars · used literally everywhere (even inside OpenAI) The vector similarity search library --------------------- Segment Anything (SAM 1 & 2) – 2023-2024 55k stars Revolutionized image segmentation overnight --------------------- Open Compute Project – 2011 Entire open-source datacenter designs (servers, racks, networking, power) Google, Microsoft, Apple, and basically the whole hyperscaler industry build on OCP blueprints --------------------- Zstandard (zstd) – 2016 Faster than gzip · now in Linux kernel, NVIDIA drivers, Cloudflare, etc. The new compression king --------------------- Buck2 – 2023 Rust build system, 3-5× faster than Buck1 Handles Meta’s insane monorepo without dying --------------------- Prophet – 2017 · 20k stars Go-to time-series forecasting library for business --------------------- Hydra – 2020 · 9k stars Config management that saved the sanity of ML researchers --------------------- Docusaurus – 2017 · 55k stars Powers docs for React, Jest, Babel, etc. --------------------- Velox – 2022 C++ query engine · backbone of next-gen Presto/Trino --------------------- Sapling – 2023 Git replacement that actually works at 10M+ file scale --------------------- Meta’s GitHub org is now >3 million stars total — more than Google + Microsoft + Amazon combined. --------------------- Bottom line: if you’re using modern AI in 2025, there’s a ~90% chance you’re running on something Meta open-sourced for free.
    - hamburglar 11mo ago
      OSQuery
  - jayd16 11mo ago
    We can still like it. We're not nominating Nobel Prizes or something.
- unsungNovelty 11mo ago
  I dont think it's open source. It says SAM license. Most likely source available.
- magicalist 11mo ago
  > none of the other top labs release thier models like meta Don't basically all the "top labs" except Anthropic now have open weight models? And Zuckerberg said they were now going to be "careful about what we choose to open source" in the future, which is a shift from their previous rhetoric about "Open Source AI is the Path Forward".
uudecoded 11mo ago
Agreed. The community orientation is great now. I had mixed feelings about them after finding and reporting a live vuln (medium-severity) back in 2005 or so.[1] I'm not really into social media but it does seem like they've changed their culture for the better. [1] I didn't take them up on the offer to interview in the wake of that and so it will be forever known as "I've made a huge mistake."
cheschire 11mo ago
Does everyone forget 2023 when someone leaked the llama weights to 4chan?? Then meta started issuing takedowns on the leaks trying to stop it. Meta took the open path because their initial foray into AI was compromised so they have been doing their best to kneecap everyone else since then. I like the result but let’s not pretend it’s for gracious intent.
- deadbabe 11mo ago
  There is so much malice in the world, let’s just pretend for once it is gracious intent. Feels better.
  - deleted 11mo ago
    [deleted]
  - alex1138 11mo ago
    Sure, but people have the right to ask questions, as for example Zuck's pledge to give away 99% which people pointed out might be a tax avoidance scheme The retort was essentially "Can't you just be nice?" but people have the right to ask questions; sometimes the questions reveal much corruption that actually does go on
    - abustamam 11mo ago
      I think it is valid to question why he'd be giving away 99% of his fortune, because let's be honest, Zuck has not proven that he is trustworthy. But at the same time, he could just... Not donate that much. Yes, the 99% did NOT go straight into non-profits, instead being funneled into his foundation, which has donated millions into actual charitable organizations, but that's arguably millions that wouldn't have otherwise gone to those orgs. Is it a bit disingenuous to say he's donating 99% of his wealth when his foundation has only donated a few hundred million (or few billion?), which is a single percent of his wealth? Yeah, probably. But a few billion is more than zero, and is undeniably helpful to those organizations.
- zamadatix 11mo ago
throwuxiytayq 11mo ago
Disappointingly, every time Zuck hands out some free shit people instantly forget that he and his companies are a cancer upon humanity. Come on dude, "several reasons to not like the company" doesn't fucking cut it.
siva7 11mo ago
If they really deliver a model that can track and describe existing images / videos well that would be a huge breakthrough. There are many extremely useful cases in med, law, surveillance, software and so on. Their competition sucks at this.

by cebert 11mo ago

visioninmyblood 11mo ago

Not of fan of the company for the social media but have to appreciate all the open sourcing. none of the other top labs release thier models like meta.

patrickk 11mo ago
They're not doing it out of the goodness of their heart, they're deploying a classic strategy known as "Commoditize Your Complement"[1], to ward off threats from OpenAI and Anthropic. It's only a happy accident that the little guy benefits in this instance. Facebook is a deeply scummy company[2] and their stranglehold on online advertising spend (along with Google) allows them to pour enormous funds into side bets like this. [1] https://gwern.net/complement https://gwern.net/complement [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Careless_People https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Careless_People
- arcanemachiner 11mo ago
  Well, when your incentives happen to align with those of a faceless mega-corporstion, you gotta take what you can get.
  - GCUMstlyHarmls 11mo ago
    You dont have to thank them for it though.
    - throwaway98797 11mo ago
      you don’t, that’s true i prefer to say thank you when someone is doing something good
    - visioninmyblood 11mo ago
      I spend years working on training these models. Inference is always the fruit. The effort going into getting the data is the most time consuming part. I am not a fan of meta from a long time. But open sourcing the weights help move the field in general. So I have to be thankful for that.
- unsungNovelty 11mo ago
  Not even closely OK with facebook. But none of the other companies do this. And Mark has been open about it. I remember him saying in an interview the same very openly. Something oddly respectable about NOT sugar coating with good PR and marketing. Unlike OpenAI.
- _giorgio_ 11mo ago
  Among the top 10 tech companies and beyond, they have the most successful open source program. These projects come to my mind: SAM segment anything. PyTorch LLama ... Open source datacenters and server blueprints. the following instead comes from grok.com Meta’s open-source hall of fame (Nov 2025) --------------------- Llama family (2 → 3.3) – 2023-2025 >500k total stars · powers ~80% of models on Hugging Face Single-handedly killed the closed frontier model monopoly --------------------- PyTorch – 2017 85k+ stars · the #1 ML framework in research TensorFlow is basically dead in academia now --------------------- React + React Native – 2013/2015 230k + 120k stars Still the de-facto UI standard for web & mobile --------------------- FAISS – 2017 32k stars · used literally everywhere (even inside OpenAI) The vector similarity search library --------------------- Segment Anything (SAM 1 & 2) – 2023-2024 55k stars Revolutionized image segmentation overnight --------------------- Open Compute Project – 2011 Entire open-source datacenter designs (servers, racks, networking, power) Google, Microsoft, Apple, and basically the whole hyperscaler industry build on OCP blueprints --------------------- Zstandard (zstd) – 2016 Faster than gzip · now in Linux kernel, NVIDIA drivers, Cloudflare, etc. The new compression king --------------------- Buck2 – 2023 Rust build system, 3-5× faster than Buck1 Handles Meta’s insane monorepo without dying --------------------- Prophet – 2017 · 20k stars Go-to time-series forecasting library for business --------------------- Hydra – 2020 · 9k stars Config management that saved the sanity of ML researchers --------------------- Docusaurus – 2017 · 55k stars Powers docs for React, Jest, Babel, etc. --------------------- Velox – 2022 C++ query engine · backbone of next-gen Presto/Trino --------------------- Sapling – 2023 Git replacement that actually works at 10M+ file scale --------------------- Meta’s GitHub org is now >3 million stars total — more than Google + Microsoft + Amazon combined. --------------------- Bottom line: if you’re using modern AI in 2025, there’s a ~90% chance you’re running on something Meta open-sourced for free.
  - hamburglar 11mo ago
    OSQuery
- jayd16 11mo ago
  We can still like it. We're not nominating Nobel Prizes or something.
unsungNovelty 11mo ago
I dont think it's open source. It says SAM license. Most likely source available.
magicalist 11mo ago
> none of the other top labs release thier models like meta Don't basically all the "top labs" except Anthropic now have open weight models? And Zuckerberg said they were now going to be "careful about what we choose to open source" in the future, which is a shift from their previous rhetoric about "Open Source AI is the Path Forward".

uudecoded 11mo ago

Agreed. The community orientation is great now. I had mixed feelings about them after finding and reporting a live vuln (medium-severity) back in 2005 or so.[1] I'm not really into social media but it does seem like they've changed their culture for the better. [1] I didn't take them up on the offer to interview in the wake of that and so it will be forever known as "I've made a huge mistake."

cheschire 11mo ago

Does everyone forget 2023 when someone leaked the llama weights to 4chan?? Then meta started issuing takedowns on the leaks trying to stop it. Meta took the open path because their initial foray into AI was compromised so they have been doing their best to kneecap everyone else since then. I like the result but let’s not pretend it’s for gracious intent.

deadbabe 11mo ago
There is so much malice in the world, let’s just pretend for once it is gracious intent. Feels better.
- deleted 11mo ago
  [deleted]
- alex1138 11mo ago
  Sure, but people have the right to ask questions, as for example Zuck's pledge to give away 99% which people pointed out might be a tax avoidance scheme The retort was essentially "Can't you just be nice?" but people have the right to ask questions; sometimes the questions reveal much corruption that actually does go on
  - abustamam 11mo ago
    I think it is valid to question why he'd be giving away 99% of his fortune, because let's be honest, Zuck has not proven that he is trustworthy. But at the same time, he could just... Not donate that much. Yes, the 99% did NOT go straight into non-profits, instead being funneled into his foundation, which has donated millions into actual charitable organizations, but that's arguably millions that wouldn't have otherwise gone to those orgs. Is it a bit disingenuous to say he's donating 99% of his wealth when his foundation has only donated a few hundred million (or few billion?), which is a single percent of his wealth? Yeah, probably. But a few billion is more than zero, and is undeniably helpful to those organizations.
zamadatix 11mo ago

throwuxiytayq 11mo ago

Disappointingly, every time Zuck hands out some free shit people instantly forget that he and his companies are a cancer upon humanity. Come on dude, "several reasons to not like the company" doesn't fucking cut it.

siva7 11mo ago

If they really deliver a model that can track and describe existing images / videos well that would be a huge breakthrough. There are many extremely useful cases in med, law, surveillance, software and so on. Their competition sucks at this.