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The thing is, for us normal consumers AI only has downsides. AI blogspam is made to serve you ads and make you buy stuff. AI posts / comments on Reddit are mad

The thing is, for us normal consumers AI only has downsides. AI blogspam is made to serve you ads and make you buy stuff. AI posts / comments on Reddit are made to make you buy stuff. AI videos are made to keep you engaged, and then serve you ads which at the end make you buy stuff. Soon ChatGPT will start to weave ads into their output because they'll need to make $.

t-writescode 11mo ago
I mean, it gives product recommendations when you ask it to, so it's already doing that, I'm sure. It might not be making money by giving specific recommendations; but I bet it's at least getting money off Amazon referral links.
palmotea 11mo ago
> Soon ChatGPT will start to weave ads into their output because they'll need to make $. AI enthusiasts need to anticipate that. We're in the VC subsidy phase, but the hammer will drop sooner or later. If you think ads are bad on Google and Facebook now, just imagine a Google that has to spend 100x more on compute to service your requests.
- rurp 11mo ago
  Yes exactly. In a decade or two people will wistfully look back on 2025 era GenAI similar to how people currently remember when Google Search was great 10+ years ago. The AI enshittification will probably be even more dramatic though, in part because of the immense cost. Despite getting more abusive every year, Google ads are at least still identifiable if you know to look for them. Once AI training weights start getting heavily manipulated for corporate and political reasons things could get pretty ugly.
- scuff3d 11mo ago
  Plus the incentives are totally fucked. It's bad enough with search, it's far worse with AI. Nobody (referring to companies) wants the best model. Or the one that gives the right answer the first time 100% of the time. They want the model that's just good enough to keep you prompting, but just bad enough that you use a fuck load of tokens and see a million ads. Unless they start making these things say more expensive, pretty soon developers are going to start seeing ads in the comments of their damn source code. Or worse, suggestions to use paid services to solve all your problems, because companies paid to have the LLM shill it's products.
  - s1mplicissimus 11mo ago
    > Or worse, suggestions to use paid services to solve all your problems, because companies paid to have the LLM shill it's products and it's all going to be microsoft services shudder
_DeadFred_ 11mo ago
AI posts/comments are meant to disenfranchise. AI posts/comments are made to flood the market of opinion and drown out the voice of the individual, to speed up dead internet theory and to remove the adversarial nature the old, open internet had with entrenched power/control (especially on narratives).
hprotagonist 11mo ago
> Soon ChatGPT will start to weave ads into their output because they'll need to make $. you have no reason to believe this is not already the case.
- wiscodev 11mo ago
  Sincerely, thanks for making this point. It may explain some subtle oddities I feel (cannot accurately reproduce them) I've observed using copilot in my daily workflow.
- snypher 11mo ago
  I wondered why it was using fast food items for variable names..

t-writescode 11mo ago

I mean, it gives product recommendations when you ask it to, so it's already doing that, I'm sure. It might not be making money by giving specific recommendations; but I bet it's at least getting money off Amazon referral links.

palmotea 11mo ago

> Soon ChatGPT will start to weave ads into their output because they'll need to make $. AI enthusiasts need to anticipate that. We're in the VC subsidy phase, but the hammer will drop sooner or later. If you think ads are bad on Google and Facebook now, just imagine a Google that has to spend 100x more on compute to service your requests.

rurp 11mo ago
Yes exactly. In a decade or two people will wistfully look back on 2025 era GenAI similar to how people currently remember when Google Search was great 10+ years ago. The AI enshittification will probably be even more dramatic though, in part because of the immense cost. Despite getting more abusive every year, Google ads are at least still identifiable if you know to look for them. Once AI training weights start getting heavily manipulated for corporate and political reasons things could get pretty ugly.
scuff3d 11mo ago
Plus the incentives are totally fucked. It's bad enough with search, it's far worse with AI. Nobody (referring to companies) wants the best model. Or the one that gives the right answer the first time 100% of the time. They want the model that's just good enough to keep you prompting, but just bad enough that you use a fuck load of tokens and see a million ads. Unless they start making these things say more expensive, pretty soon developers are going to start seeing ads in the comments of their damn source code. Or worse, suggestions to use paid services to solve all your problems, because companies paid to have the LLM shill it's products.
- s1mplicissimus 11mo ago
  > Or worse, suggestions to use paid services to solve all your problems, because companies paid to have the LLM shill it's products and it's all going to be microsoft services shudder

_DeadFred_ 11mo ago

AI posts/comments are meant to disenfranchise. AI posts/comments are made to flood the market of opinion and drown out the voice of the individual, to speed up dead internet theory and to remove the adversarial nature the old, open internet had with entrenched power/control (especially on narratives).

hprotagonist 11mo ago

> Soon ChatGPT will start to weave ads into their output because they'll need to make $. you have no reason to believe this is not already the case.

wiscodev 11mo ago
Sincerely, thanks for making this point. It may explain some subtle oddities I feel (cannot accurately reproduce them) I've observed using copilot in my daily workflow.
snypher 11mo ago
I wondered why it was using fast food items for variable names..