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You can do this trivially in modern browsers: private browsing. I have one "normal" browser window for "persistent cookie" use (like gmail, youtube, etc) and a

by nomel 1y ago

You can do this trivially in modern browsers: private browsing. I have one "normal" browser window for "persistent cookie" use (like gmail, youtube, etc) and another "private" window for everything else. Cookies are lost anytime a tab closes.

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morshu9001 1y ago
Yeah idk why there's a law trying to poorly enforce this instead
- troupo 1y ago
  Because the law isn't about cookies, but about tracking? You know, the kind that doesn't stop even if you open the "ignorant mode" in your browser: https://www.tomsguide.com/news/going-incognito-in-chrome-doesnt-mean-youre-not-being-tracked-now-confirmed-by-google https://www.tomsguide.com/news/going-incognito-in-chrome-doe...
necovek 1y ago
Are you sure cookies get scrapped after you close a tab? Does opening a single session-based web site in multiple tabs work (eg. logged into Amazon in a private browser)? What browser are you using?
- morshu9001 1y ago
  In Chrome and Firefox, all the private windows share a session that gets scrapped when you close them all. Safari keeps them separate.
troupo 1y ago
> You can do this trivially in modern browsers: private browsing. The one that Google keeps tracking? https://www.tomsguide.com/news/going-incognito-in-chrome-doesnt-mean-youre-not-being-tracked-now-confirmed-by-google https://www.tomsguide.com/news/going-incognito-in-chrome-doe... Edit: not just Google. Incognito mode does not prevent websites from tracking you, period. --- start quote --- Once these new disclaimers make their way to stable builds of Chrome, you’ll see a message that looks like this when going incognito: “Others who use this device won’t see your activity, so you can browse more privately. This won’t change how data is collected by websites you visit and the services they use, including Google." --- end quote ---
- nomel 1y ago
  I don't use browsers made by ad companies, because I fully expect that browser to stay out of the way of their revenue stream. There are many browsers out there that care about privacy.
  - troupo 1y ago
    Doesn't matter. Companies will keep tracking you in incognito mode.
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1718627440 1y ago
Private browsing is equivalent to creating an ephemeral browser profile everytime. It might get rid of more browser storage, but for how tracking works now-a-days, it is useless. It is only for what you want to store on your disk, not for how you want to be seen to remotes.
- nomel 1y ago
  I'll admit I may have fallen for "private" browser marketing. Is this representative to current methods? https://coveryourtracks.eff.org https://coveryourtracks.eff.org I assume a subset of these bits could be used, meaning the "unique" or not claim of this test probably doesn't reflect if you can be tracked. I also assume that a VPN would help tremendously. For that test, as is, I get "unique" every refresh when using Brave Browser. With Safari and Chrome, I get a fail an subsequent sessions.
  - 1718627440 1y ago
    > I'll admit I may have fallen for "private" browser marketing. The private claim isn't wrong, the threat model is just your spouse seeing that you watched porn and not at all about the remote party.
  - 1718627440 1y ago
    > https://coveryourtracks.eff.org https://coveryourtracks.eff.org Platform Linux x86_64 One in x browsers have this value: 5.73 What? They just claim Linux has a marketshare of ~20%?
    - nomel 11mo ago
      For all of these values, I think they're going purely by bits rather than occurrences observed or market share.
- morshu9001 1y ago
  It's still the easiest way to track users. If it were useless, Google wouldn't be so opposed to blocking 3P cookies in Chrome.

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morshu9001 1y ago

Yeah idk why there's a law trying to poorly enforce this instead

troupo 1y ago
Because the law isn't about cookies, but about tracking? You know, the kind that doesn't stop even if you open the "ignorant mode" in your browser: https://www.tomsguide.com/news/going-incognito-in-chrome-doesnt-mean-youre-not-being-tracked-now-confirmed-by-google https://www.tomsguide.com/news/going-incognito-in-chrome-doe...

necovek 1y ago

Are you sure cookies get scrapped after you close a tab? Does opening a single session-based web site in multiple tabs work (eg. logged into Amazon in a private browser)? What browser are you using?

morshu9001 1y ago
In Chrome and Firefox, all the private windows share a session that gets scrapped when you close them all. Safari keeps them separate.

troupo 1y ago

> You can do this trivially in modern browsers: private browsing. The one that Google keeps tracking? https://www.tomsguide.com/news/going-incognito-in-chrome-doesnt-mean-youre-not-being-tracked-now-confirmed-by-google https://www.tomsguide.com/news/going-incognito-in-chrome-doe... Edit: not just Google. Incognito mode does not prevent websites from tracking you, period. --- start quote --- Once these new disclaimers make their way to stable builds of Chrome, you’ll see a message that looks like this when going incognito: “Others who use this device won’t see your activity, so you can browse more privately. This won’t change how data is collected by websites you visit and the services they use, including Google." --- end quote ---

nomel 1y ago
I don't use browsers made by ad companies, because I fully expect that browser to stay out of the way of their revenue stream. There are many browsers out there that care about privacy.
- troupo 1y ago
  Doesn't matter. Companies will keep tracking you in incognito mode.
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1718627440 1y ago

Private browsing is equivalent to creating an ephemeral browser profile everytime. It might get rid of more browser storage, but for how tracking works now-a-days, it is useless. It is only for what you want to store on your disk, not for how you want to be seen to remotes.

nomel 1y ago
I'll admit I may have fallen for "private" browser marketing. Is this representative to current methods? https://coveryourtracks.eff.org https://coveryourtracks.eff.org I assume a subset of these bits could be used, meaning the "unique" or not claim of this test probably doesn't reflect if you can be tracked. I also assume that a VPN would help tremendously. For that test, as is, I get "unique" every refresh when using Brave Browser. With Safari and Chrome, I get a fail an subsequent sessions.
- 1718627440 1y ago
  > I'll admit I may have fallen for "private" browser marketing. The private claim isn't wrong, the threat model is just your spouse seeing that you watched porn and not at all about the remote party.
- 1718627440 1y ago
  > https://coveryourtracks.eff.org https://coveryourtracks.eff.org Platform Linux x86_64 One in x browsers have this value: 5.73 What? They just claim Linux has a marketshare of ~20%?
  - nomel 11mo ago
    For all of these values, I think they're going purely by bits rather than occurrences observed or market share.
morshu9001 1y ago
It's still the easiest way to track users. If it were useless, Google wouldn't be so opposed to blocking 3P cookies in Chrome.